Click now, I will click time for the video, and this will put the link in the screen, it will open you my eyes and up here. The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End And they are in custody And can you imagine this? Here's General Clark The head of NATO forces Now notice NATO forces And these men were not attached to NATO forces They were attached to United Nations peacekeeping forces Now listen to me carefully What were they? Were they United States forces? No Were they NATO forces? No Were they United Nations peacekeeping forces in Bosnia? Yes That's exactly what they were They were United Nations peacekeeping forces in Bosnia They were not United States forces And they were not NATO forces Even though they are Americans They were not United States soldiers They were United Nations soldiers Who on a lark Looking for adventure As all young men do Left their patrol column Went up a road Probably in concert With a bunch of other young men Looking for adventure And entered Yugoslavia And were captured Now when President William Jefferson Clinton Gets on television and says These are United States soldiers He's a liar They may have enlisted in the military Forces of the United States of America In the United States Army But ladies and gentlemen They were transferred And assigned To the NATO peacekeeping forces In Bosnia They are under United Nations command They are not United States soldiers Don't you think it's funny That the United Nations Is not sticking up for these guys? Well, they screwed up First place They left their patrol They went up a road They weren't supposed to go up And they entered into Yugoslavia When they were supposed to be A cohesive unit A patrol Patrolling the border Between Yugoslavia And Bosnia Or And this is going on All over the place So What is the bit here? Macedonia Ladies and gentlemen The UN peacekeeping forces In Macedonia And Bosnia And any other place In that region Are all The same Forces They are in fact Whether they're in Bosnia Or Macedonia Attached to the United Nations Peacekeeping forces Assigned Specifically To keep the peace In Bosnia These guys get Captured And Here's General Clark Here's General Clark The great war criminal And he is a war criminal Who has sent NATO forces To bomb A sovereign nation Into submission Through coercion To agree To a treaty That they Do not wish To be A part Of In other words The neighborhood Thug You will do What we tell you To do Or we'll beat you up Every day Until you do it That's the neighborhood Thug That's General Clark He is a war criminal He sent forces To invade A sovereign nation With no provocation Whatsoever A nation That has not Attacked anyone Outside Its own borders And was attempting To solve Its own problems Within its own borders General Clark Is the war criminal Not Slobodan Unless of that Now General Clark Is bombing Yugoslavia Every day And every night Killing Yugoslavian Military personnel Yugoslavian Government personnel Yugoslavian Civilians Both Serbs Albanians And other nationalities And ethnic groups The bombs Are falling All over the place And killing Killing Scores and scores And scores Of people All of a sudden You get three Adventurous young men Who do something They're not supposed To do Looking for adventure They cross the border Into Yugoslavia And they become Captured And all of a sudden General Clark Is outraged How dare you How dare you Take our personnel Prisoner Well in the first Place General Clark You are the head Of NATO These men Are signed To the United Nations Peacekeeping Forces And are not A part of NATO And are not Your personnel Unless you are Lying to all of us Again And again And again And again Which is it And if they're United Nations Personnel Why isn't The United Nations Saying something About this Because that's The command That they Legitimately Fall under And William Jefferson Clinton Says Oh We're bombing The hell out of you We're killing Your people All day And all night Every day And every night How dare you Abduct Our military Personnel Abduct Oh Is William Jefferson Clinton One of the Little gray Aliens Now Or is it Molesivek This little Gray alien What's going on What's this Abduct Bullshit They were Captured In a war And William Jefferson Clinton Claims That we're Not at war Listen to me Carefully William Jefferson Clinton Claims That we Are not At war With Yugoslavia Yet He claims That those Three men Have protection Under the Geneva Convention As prisoners Of war Now What kind Of double Talk is that Yugoslavia Did not Declare war Upon us The United States of America Through the Orders of William Jefferson Clinton Taking Control Of NATO Declared War Upon Yugoslavia Illegally Unlockily And Unconstitutionally Because the Declaration of War Must come Through an Act of Congress He invaded A sovereign Nation With no Provocation Whatsoever That's an Act of War We are At war With Yugoslavia And It's not Really A NATO War Because William Jefferson Clinton Declared The war William Jefferson Clinton Is Declaring The terms William Jefferson Clinton Is Controlling The whole Thing It is Not International It is Not NATO It is William Jefferson Satan Oh I'm Sorry Did I Make a Mistake I Mean William Jefferson Clinton The greatest Liar Who's Ever Lived Upon The face Of This Earth And He's Telling Melissa We have A long Memory We will Hold you Personally Responsible For these Three Young Men These Three Members Of the United States Military Forces Oh I beg Your Pardon That's Another Lie They Were Members Of NATO Forces Oh Did I Say That My Goodness Could It Be Because NATO Is An Organization The North Atlantic Treaty Organization Formed Under The Auspices Of The United Nations Charter And Is Therefore A United Nations Force And Could It Be That William Jefferson Clinton Has Taken Control Of A United Nations Force Unilaterally Without The Approval Or The Consultation Of The Security Council That's Exactly What He Did But These Three Men Are United Nations Soldiers Not United States Soldiers They May Have Started Out As United States Soldiers But They Certainly Were Not United States Soldiers When They Were Captured They Were Assigned To And Under The Command Of The United Nations The United Nations And Here's Clinton On Television Saying We're Going To Hold You Personally Responsible Well Who Cares What Are You Dump You Think We're All So Stupid You Think The Whole World Is Brain Dead What's The Matter With You Clinton You've Already Told This Guy Listen To Me Carefully It Was Not The War Crimes Commission In The Hague That Said This It Was Not The War Crimes Commission In Hague That Said This It Was William Jefferson Clinton Said Said That Slobodan Molesovec And Anyone Who Cooperates With Him In Command Of His Military Forces Or His Government Will Be Tried As War Criminals War Criminals In Something That William Jefferson Clinton Claims Is Not A War He Claims We're Not At War But They're Going To What More Can You What Are You Going To Do Clinton Are You Going To Bomb Them What Is Your Threat Clinton Are You Going To Go In And Bomb These People And Bomb Them And Bomb Them And You Are You Are Doing That And You Are Told Molest That He's Going To Be Tried As A War Criminal So Where Is Your Threat You Haven't Got A Threat You're A Bullshit Artist And The Whole World Knows It And We're Sick And Tired Of It And We're Sick And Tired Of The Unconstitutional Actions That You've Taken We're Sick And Tired Of What You're Doing In Yugoslavia And It's You It's Not NATO It's You William Jefferson Clinton You Were In Charge Of This Whole Damn Thing You Make Me Sick You Make Me Ashamed To Be An American And Most Americans Do Not Approve Of What You Are Doing Will Not Condone It And Pretty Soon You're Going To Be Destroyed Politically Because Of It Now Let's See Who Is The War Criminal Mr. William Jefferson Clinton The Man Who Attacked A Church And The Residence Where The People Who Belonged To The Church Lived Under The Subterfuge That There Was A Warrant For The Leader Of The Church A Warrant That Was Not Ever Served Or Attempted To Be Served They Didn't Take The Warrant With Them When They Went To The Church And Began Firing On These People To Kill Them And After Fifty Some Odd Days Sent In Assassination Squads Shot The Ones That Were Still Alive In The Head And Then Burned Them All To A Crisp The Massacre The Waco Massacre Perpetrated And Carried Out By William Jefferson Clinton And The Butcher Janet Reno Listen To Their Own Words Ladies And Gentlemen Everyone That You Will Hear On This Tape Except One Black Woman The One Speaking Right Now Is Dead Murdered By William Jefferson Clinton And The Butcher Known As Janet Reno Dead Murdered This Is A Videotape That They Made While Under Siege By The Federal Bureau Of Investigation And The Bureau Of Alcohol Tobacco And Firearms Not Too Many People Know That This Tape Exists It Is Their Own Story And Their Own Words Listen Carefully Because This Is Their Last Will And Testament They're All Dead Except For This One Woman Whom You Hear Right Now About The Whole Thing Because This Is Supposed To Be The Land Of Freedom Of Free Unreligious City And So One Day Everything Calm And The Next Thing Is Women And Children Where I'm Saying Yes One Well Words Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Anything you wanted to add about any other thing that you'd like to say to the people that this will go to? By the way, I'm not sure where the tape is going. Basically, I'm here on my own free will. I'm not in health hostage and we are a big family here. We're very happy. This is my family. Those who do the will of God, my father, are my family. I love those who are my family in the flesh, but until they know the truth about this message, then, you know, I have to put this family first. So you don't choose to leave the place right now? No, no way. This is where I am. This is where my beliefs are. This is where the truth is being left at this time. And, well, we should wait and see what God has in store for the world. So is that what you're doing? Is you're waiting right now? Yes, I'm waiting on God. I mean, this is where the truth is. This is where existence is for me in the world. I mean, there is no existence outside this vicinity. This is where David is. He is revealing the field and this is what the world should have been waiting for. And I'm very fortunate to be in this place at this time. Is there anything you'd like to add? I would like to say that I think the American government are very foolish not to let them know. It's not to listen first to what David has to say. And to come up with something like a big tanker toy, as they have with that big tank which is outside. It, to me, it's, it's, um, I don't want to insult them, but it's really insulting to see such a big, um, armour equipment with people who are inside this place like a business owner. I mean, what are they trying to prove? You know. And I am here on my own free law. I am not being drunk or anything. Everyone is too sweet. I am very happy. I am living a normal life. Is that your thing? Yes, thank you very much. Okay, thank you. We'll, we'll stop until we have someone else here. What is your name? My name is Marjorie. Marjorie, where are you from? London, England. Uh, and what brings you here to Waco, Texas of all places? Well, um... Surely, surely you didn't, uh, read about there's been some kind of a nice travel brochure. No, I didn't. I've been with you. I feel like I've been through all my life. And, um, I met someone who had been to America, who had met someone who was able to, um, reveal and put passages together from different parts of the Bible. And, um, I was interested. I was told to come and see, which I did. I came ready to America. Um, when I was showing, um, passages in the Bible, it was mind-blowing because no one in the churches or, um, these church leaders were able to answer my questions, um, things that I wanted to know and in coming over him. Things were brought to my attention. I could see things more clearly. It was, it was a shock at first for someone to show you something which you've been looking looking for all your life. But then again, it was also nice to know that you found someone who could reveal these things. Okay. It sounds kind of strange, I'm sure, to most people, even hear something like that. Um, so what have you thought of the, the events of just as of recently, some of the things that have been taking place, like a week ago with Sunday, for instance? Do you have a reaction to that or, in response to that also or a relation to that? Do you want to make a statement about leaving or staying? Do you want to leave? No, I'm here with my free will. So are we holding you? Am I or David or anybody else holding you? No one's holding me. My church came here. I decided to be here. I wanted to be here. Yes. We realized also that man has made boundary lines all over this globe called an earth and has divided it up. But we believe according to Psalm 50, don't we, that God owns all things? Yes. Okay. So again, do you want to be here then? You're here on your own free will. Do you want to add anything to that, Marge? Well, the incident which happened last week Sunday was a shock. When you see these things on the television, you can walk away from it. But when you're actually on the scene when an incident happens, it's frightening. So now one minute you're looking after the universe being shooting helicopters and the next minute you're firing and you're on the floor with bullet shells flying all over your head. It's frightening and also having tanks around the building, which I think is necessary. Okay. Anything, if this was to go back to Britain, this tape or any parts of it or to the press, is there anything else you might want to add or just say? Yeah. This is my family, my friends, and a man's friend, some new friends, that's when I've been aged. But I am fine as they can see. Yeah. It entails my own free will. I am happy with the people who I am with. That's good to see. And what I'd like to say about the press is some of the things that they are hearing are not the truth. And I hope with this video being made that things that are about to happen that people see and know the truth. Okay. Did you want to add anything else? Or is that about it? Okay. Thank you, Marge. Thank you. I'm sure now that wants to share a few things and we will put her on. And what is your name? My name is Judy Schneider-Carras. And this is my daughter, Mina. And as you can see, I was wounded when the ATF came in and assaulted us. I was quite surprised to see our government act the way it did. And that David went to the door with his hands up and said, Don't shoot. There's women and children in here. And yet they opened fire and fired at everyone here. It was just amazing. I don't really expect anyone to jump on our bandwagon right now and believe what we believe after just hearing little distant pieces. I've been in the message since 1986 then with David and with something astounding saying. I just think now you need to sit back and see what really is going on in our government. That's the whole thing that we're upset with right now. And we're waiting on God for an answer about what we can do. Can I see a close-up of your finger? If you'll hold it still, let me zoom in on your finger. Okay, don't move it now. Hold it right there. I will try to see if I can focus it in a little better than what I have at this point in time. Okay. Okay. What happened there with your finger? You were just sitting there? I was told you were nursing the baby or one of the babies or what was it? I was just sitting there with my hands sort of like this and bullets were coming in our window. A lot of our clothing was damaged from bullets and I'm glad we weren't more than this. That's some very fat finger you have there. Yeah, it's kind of swollen. I just looked at the doctor and I was going and he said it's quite dangerous. He thought I should come out and get treatment but I asked him why didn't he come in here because I don't really trust what they might do out there as far as being a person in the hospital. Were you hurt any other place or did you have any other injury? Right. I was sitting here kind of like, I'm not exactly sure it happened so fast but at any rate it went up this finger into my hand and out my shoulder. Okay. What brought you here in the first place to Waco, Texas? To start with your baby. Okay. And a question that everybody wants to know. Do you want to leave? Are you being held here against your will? I want to leave when God says go but no, I don't want to go out there on my own without David and everyone else, the rest of my family. We're all family. So no one's holding here? You were here against your will? No one would be holding anyone here against me. Okay. Were you able to see a video that the agency sent to us showing some of the children that were at the facility, wherever they're at? The video we saw today of them running around crazily, eating candy, drinking soda pop, dumping around like well-made ants, watching videos. And yeah, we were all quite upset to see our children behave like that because they've always been well-mannered and disciplined and they don't eat candy in between meals and only on their occasions. It's not good for your teeth or health or anything. So you see that as being a cause of hyperactivity in children? Something they already don't eat? I mean, we love the kids. They can't help the way they're being cared for. I guess that's the only thing the people have really know to do. Is there anything else you might have to say to the American people or to anybody that's on the outside? Your family maybe? Your friends? Well, I love you, Mom, of course. You know that. And I love all my family and I just hope everyone doesn't jump to making it easy. My first step to making decisions was before they heard our side. Because right now all you're hearing is the press. You're being a very perverted press. They're not allowed to broadcast lies. It has to be taped and it has to be cut out in pain, stories, all kinds of lies. I mean, like the lady holds up a bullet. This is what the ATF uses and this is what we use. I'm like, wow, I never saw one of those before. I mean, it's so many lies. It's so many lies. It changes stories all the time. You just need to trust God. I mean, trust God, read the Bible, know what you're talking about. Remember, ladies and gentlemen, all of these people that you're listening to are dead except for the first black woman that you heard on this tape. Also, most Americans don't realize that 50% of all of those people in the Branch of Davidian Church were black. The same lying press is lying to you now about what's happening in Yugoslavia. Is there any final comments you'd like to make? Tell me about humanitarian missions. Well, thanks so much. What about us? What about my next? Does she want to say anything? Do you want to say hello to your grandma? Grandpa? Your aunt's cute? Wait. Wait soon. Wait. Wait. Okay, thank you. We'll go on to someone else. Thank you. Ladies with me and we'll start out by finding out what their names are and we'll start with the one on the far left. And what is your name? My name is Lisa. How old are you, Lisa? 13. 13. And who's next to you? I'm Abby. And how old are you, Abby? I'm 11. You're 11. And who else do we have here? I'm Lisa and I'm 13. You're 13 and? Audrey and I'm 13. And you're 13 also. Of course, as everyone else, we've asked why are you here? And we'll start again with Lisa. Lisa, what brings you here to Texas? Well, my dad and mom... My dad and mom brought me home when I was little. When you were young? Yeah, I was young. So you didn't really come here by choice then, per se, did you? No. But now that you're... How old are you again? 15. 15 years old. Would you like to leave? No. You don't want to leave? Even though there are always events that have been taking place of the gunfire and the possibility of more, and not knowing what's going on, you still don't want to leave? Are you being held against your will? No. Are you sure? No. Okay. What about Abby? Abby, what are you doing here? What brought you here? Well, I came to my grandma when I was... Five. When you were about five? And have you left since then at all? Have you been... Have you gone away to get to visit? Yes, I have. Okay. So, do you want to leave now? If you were given the opportunity to leave now, would you like to leave? No. You sure? Yes. Is anyone here holding you against your will? No. No one is? Okay. Is there anything you would like to say to me? Yes. Is anyone here holding you against your will? No. No one is? Okay. Is there anything you would like to say to me? No. No one is? No one is? No. Okay. Is there anything you would like to say to your grandmother on the outside or anyone else? No one is? No one is. Okay. And next we have Rachel. Rachel, tell us something about your arriving here. Have you been here for a while? Yes, I have been here. I'm five years old. You're about five? Yes. And you've had an opportunity to leave, have you? Oh, yeah. Yes. I've been here for a while. I've been here for a while. Yes, I've been here for about five years old. You're about five? Yes. And you've had an opportunity to leave, have you? Yes. Yes. Well, yes. I mean, I've always been told if I want to leave, I can leave, but I've never wanted to. Why not? Well, because, you know, I like it here, have friends here. Of course, there's a truth that, you know, David teaches the seven seals and he can redo it and there's no one else so far, you know, that I've heard of that can do that. And so, I just decided to stay here and listen. So, then what you're saying is it's because there's his ability to open up the Bible, of which we all see that there are almost two billion people in the world that claim to be Christians and claim that that's their foundation also. So, you see that he has an ability that so far, Audrey's haven't shown? Is that what you're saying? Uh-huh. I know I'm asking someone of a leading question because I know that you all are a little bit camera shy. Uh, what about you, Audrey? What brings you here? Um, I came here when I was seven years old and my grandma brought me here. And I was too little to understand anything but now since I'm getting older I can understand more and, you know, the truth so far, I've been, you know, I've never heard anybody have some issues, you know, some. Okay, like David apparently is what you were thinking of. Okay, let's see. So, another few questions we've asked everybody. Uh, is there anything you wanted to say to friends or family or anywhere else? Or, do you want to... Okay, I don't have anything to say. You don't have anything else to say? No, I don't have anything. Really? Okay, what about you, Audrey, Abby, or Lisa? Anything else you want to say? Hi. Okay, hi. Well, what I don't understand is how, you know, people don't want to listen to the seals and everything because it's so plain and clear that, you know, they just don't want to listen and I don't understand that. So, you're wondering why more people aren't interested in the Bible and they're being unlocked? Is that what you're saying? And to see what's for us for the final days? Okay, I understand. Anything else? I guess that'll do? Okay, well, thank you, girls. Help's here and we'll ask for you to identify yourself. What is your name, please? My name is Lorraine Sylvia. Lorraine Sylvia, do you also have a family here or a partial family or what can you tell me about that? Yes, I do. I have a daughter here in Hollywood. Okay. And I have my son I sent out. And what is his name? His name is Joshua. So, Joshua, have you been able to see anything or hear anything of Joshua as of recent? Well, when the first time came out, he was able to call up that night to come here to rise. And then today I saw a videotape of him. And I've got to tell you that I was not impressed. Why were you not impressed with the videotape? Well, they had all the children in a room and the kids were all going wild and jumping around. And it was like they had no discipline, no correction. And what they just don't do that with that case here, you know? Okay. Because they're supervised all the time. And, you know, our kids will go into a Bible study. They'll sit for hours quietly and peacefully. And when I saw this video, they were acting like wild animals. Okay. So that bothered you then? Okay. Why are you here in the first place? Well, eight years ago, David came to my home in Massachusetts. And he was presenting Bible studies to my family. And I just saw that he had something. He was able to take all the books of the Bible and harmonize them line upon line, precepts, some precepts, and it made sense. And it was something when you read it yourself, you couldn't see it. But once he showed it to you, it was readily understood. It was just over dating it. Okay. Do you have a desire to leave here? No. I have a desire to leave. And nobody is holding a gun in my head so they can say that. No one's holding you back. No one's holding you back. Keeping you here. Threatening you or anything else. No. If God says to wait, then I intend to wait. All right. And a lot of people have said that, but what do you mean is God says to wait? Is God talking to you or something? No. God does not talk to me. The book of Revelation shows that God has a book in his hand and he hands that book to someone. He hands it to the Lamb. He's the only one who can reveal the book. God does speak to someone. And David is shown in the field. So, David, God says wait. I don't trust in him as long as he's proven himself to me. I'm going to wait. Okay. I see. Also, would you have anything you wanted to say to family elsewhere or friends? Or do you have any statements to make about the incident that happened that maybe ten days ago? Anything you'd like at all. It doesn't even have to be that. Okay. First, the incident is just a total outrage. Why is that? I don't know how the American people can stand by and watch the things they play. We have people out here. We have all these people, women, children, tiny babies. These men came in here and they started firing on us. The boats came through the walls and people were killed. People were injured. And this is America. Okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say or add? To my family. I love them. Please take Joshua. Okay. Thank you. We're going to go over here now and we're going to ask someone else sitting close by here her name and where she's from. My name is Kathy Schroeder. I'm originally from Florida. Okay. You're from Florida. Kathy, what brings you here in the first place? A few years ago I met yourself, Steve Schneider, and my husband and I, we were in Lande, Florida, and we found revealing truth in the Bible that we just could not disrepute at all. There was no way. We eventually came and met David Courage and found that he was doing the opening of the truth and have stayed to listen to everything we could. And everything, like Larry said, precept upon precept, line upon line, journal, journal. The whole Bible, every book of the Bible tells the same prophecy, tells the same thing. And I wouldn't know that what not to do. Okay. Okay. So, do you have also any children or where's your family? I have four children. Three by an X and one from my late husband and my children. They are not here with me right now. The incident that happened Sunday that nerve-wracked everybody. I mean, women and children were in our homes. Just totally shocked with the garage of weaponry. Fire upon our home. Of course, me and the children all got down. We all safely made it through that original gunfire. But it scared me too much to allow them to stay here. So, my children have been released. They are out. And I found out today that the three that do belong to my, uh, psychos, psychologically, my ex's children, he has custody of them now. I found that out today. I'm four. He turns three Sunday. He's the youngest. He's still in state custody as far as I know. Why did you send, you said he sent your children out so that you thought they might have a better chance of survival? Is that the A-? Physical survival, yes. They have pain frames in our faces. Every day we are worried. There's no telling what the federal agents out there will do based on what they've already done. So, for their physical lives and their well-being, I sent them out there. Well, what about your own life and your own physical well-being? Don't you like to be with your children? Yes, I would much rather my children be here with me. But I would not like to be out there because I know that what I'm doing here is for a reason. God said, wait, the God that I believe in, the God that David Christ has shown me, that sits on his throne, that has a book in his hand, read Revelation's all right there. It's so plain and simple. If you've got somebody to show it to you, which took me a lot of years to finally find, and once I did, there's no disagreement at all to say that that's not what's in the book. So, you don't, you don't, is anyone holding you here against your will, can't you? Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. It's His will and His will be done. Okay. Did you see that videotape of your children today? Yes, I did that videotape. I was a little disappointed in a couple of my children jumping on couches and making silly faces and just really going crazy. Had they been in my possession, had I been with them at the time, they would not have acted so radically. Is that to say they're not allowed to have fun or? No, no, my children have fun but they were, they were quite unsupervised at the time that video was taken. And that's not something that you would like to see that? No, my children are constantly doing school work when they're with me. They're constantly working and playing well, when it's supervised, when it's well supervised. They do a lot of things, they do a lot of exercise, but not jumping on couches and tables like I saw my young daughter doing. Would you like to see this all resolve the situation or maybe back as it was? What are your thoughts about that? What do you mean as it was? Well, about 10 days ago, we were all coming together studying the Bible and it was things as usual. Before the ATS got involved. Right. Okay, yes, I would love to see the situation resolved. I would love to have my children back and I would love to have my ability to worship God in the way that I feel I want to worship God, which is our American right. I would love to have that back. But as it stands right now, I can't worship God the way I want to. They're taking that from me. Is there anything else you'd like to say? One more thing I would like to tell the public if they can and find this out, that I am really tired of the lies. I'm really tired of hearing the stories that the federal agencies have told to the public. Seeing as how we have no press coverage directly from this facility, from our church. We have no one telling the world our side and watching and listening on the radio, watching on the news reports, the press conference, watching the lies that the federal agencies hold. It's astounding day after day how far they go. And that's just one agency. All of the other agencies back there are going to back them up. That's including our federal government. We, the people, don't run this government anymore. We, the people, don't run this country. They do. And they tell all the lies they want. And I'm just. But do you think all of these men are like that, do you not see that they're like some sincere that are trying to do their best from their vantage point? Those that are trying to do their best are trying to do their job. They have a family back home too. But they don't understand what the system is doing. If they did, they would see how a family did. Is there anything else you'd like to add? Just that I love my family. And I hope that my ex does try to get custody of my youngest child, Brian. That's very important to me. And that the children know that God does control the situation. No matter what happens, God is in control. And I believe that in her. Okay. Thank you, Kathy. I have someone else here now. May I ask you your name? My name is Teresa. And where are you from, Teresa? I'm from England. You are. What brings you over to America of all places, here in Texas? Well, about two years ago, I was teaching truth about the Bible. I was wondering why we have a Bible that we don't understand, you know. So I started inquiring. And when they found someone else to talk about this, and they told me someone was coming over from America. And we arranged to be that person, which was a beauty. And we had a study. And it wasn't so good at first, but I continued. And then I found that a few of my questions were being answered and continued. And then when I met David Koresh, he's asked all my questions. And there's no doubt about the truth that we were missing. We were missing before we met you and Wages. Okay. Okay. So that's what brought you over here to Wages. That's the best of all places to hear more. There's been a lot of rumors and statements over the press that you're being held here against your will. And is that true? That's not true. I have made my decision to come here because I have shown the prophecies. And we are looking forward to the truth being revealed to the world. And that's why you come here to study as much as we can, so that we can also help others in the world know this truth. Okay. So you have a vision of things better, maybe an eternal vision that you've caused. Is that what you're saying? Okay. Did you get to see your daughter on the tape that was sent? Yeah, I saw my daughter. Why is it, ladies and gentlemen, that the stupid, ignorant, and apathetic sheeple of America cared nothing about the murder of all of these people who belonged to a little church in Waco, Texas? People who weren't wanted for anything. The warrant was for David Craig. They were all murdered, every single one of them. And now you're all upset because three United Nations soldiers were captured by the Yugoslavians. I got to tell you, this reaches new heights of stupidity, ignorance, apathy, manipulation. Do you want to talk about dumb cattle? Hey, go in your bathroom, look in the mirror. You deserve the title. You are it. You are the dumb cattle. You are stupid, ignorant, and you are the puppets in this world manipulation. And so, we are the foraging people right now, and everything is in the hands of God right now, and they are just waiting on God. Whatever happens, we know it's the way that God wants it to be. Okay. Is there anything else you'd like to add? I'd like to say that if they could, before the children are sent to their families, I'd like them to try to have some more control over them to direct them if they're doing something wrong. Correct them while they're in their care. Okay. That's a final fact. Thank you, Teresa. Okay. I gave your name, of course, because it was right as your name, I would believe. Yes, I'm really close to Peter Rivera, Genovi. Okay. And where are you from originally? I'm originally from the Philippines, but I came to the United States in 1966, 68. And you're home most recently up from? My home is recently from Hawaii, Oahu. Okay. And what brings you to Waco, Texas? I was, I didn't come for the truth. I didn't know anything about it. I came with my husband. And I always sat in the back for two or three years. And as I kept listening to it, it got my ear ringing. It did. So you didn't even come here then, didn't you want to know the Bible or interest in God? No, never. You were doing something religious then? No, never. Okay, but now, what about now? Is anyone holding you against your will? Do you want to leave? What is your desire? Nobody is holding my will for anybody. So you're here by choice still? Yes. You don't want to leave then? No, but I want my kids back here. What I saw on that film, I wasn't very happy about it. So you weren't either. I would imagine it could be the same thing I was been hearing about the response to the children. Yes, they hadn't been directed. They hadn't been the last on the film. They hadn't been supervised or anything. I really appreciated doing that effort to take their pictures and redeem them, but what I saw, I wasn't, I was more upset than before. Have you learned anything from the Bible about how parents and children should be the relationship? And does it seem to work? It works with my kids. They're signs. I'm black, but they're beautiful kids, all of them. In fact, for those that are listening, whoever has children, we've learned from the book, especially the book of Proverbs in the Bible, it's like how one should be with their children and how there should be a consistency, a constant love and caring shown to the child. One should never give or use the hand on a child. It should always be for hugging and loving. And one should always stay with that program so that the child knows and learns exactly what to expect. Is that true? Yes. Is there anything else you might want to add or say to your family, friends, or anything else? I want to say to the children, I love you all. I really miss you. Remember what they taught you and how you guys eat, your eating habits and everything, and you're not supposed to eat when you're eating. Not supposed to what? Eating water. Oh, drinking water. Drinking water. Okay. Okay. Anything else? No. Growth. Good. Behave and take care of those kids. Okay? Love you all. And what might your name be? The Yvette. The Yvette. And Yvette, where are you from? England. England. As with everyone else who's been asking the same question, what brings you over to Waco, Texas? wrong story wrong story my husband was in college in England alright a guy the name of Steve Schneider came over to England he was getting some Bible stories my husband went to the studies without my knowing my ad and I later found out what was going on my husband came over to the States without me possibly a year later I found the studies to inquire what was going on then I got the truth I accepted the truth what was being taught which basically was tied up all the prophecies of the Bible together so anything that the Adventist church never showed me I was here for 10 years I was speaking truth he said nothing to tell me we went to town college to be ministers and ministers won I was just but we had nothing to be successful how far did your husband advance in the college as to the Greek well as far as the world is concerned he advanced as far as God is concerned he stayed where he was and to the church I was told he had a master's degree oh yeah he's got a master's degree did he also become a minister for that denomination sure he did oh he wants to know what he has to say he even started teaching the truth of the Bible since they came to believe basically they teach him out do you want to leave here and are you also being forced against your wealth to stay here keeping you from leaving hey listen I can live freely I'm a free agent I came by myself I came my own way I came and I went and I was pleased and I've decided to stay as I could leave my family know where I am they know I'm independent I never do anything they want anyway basically all I have to do is look I'm old enough to take care of myself as long as the support he's doing that's all I need okay and what about your children where are they right now my children are out there where wherever okay out there in the world because of the event of Sunday the morning um three days after my son is called Thursday do you miss your children well hey I'm a mother okay I miss my kids I love them very much well they were they were nice enough to video some of the children did you get to see yours yeah and the hardest hair was cut they didn't have solution to touch him I was furious when I saw him okay and Renee looked sad I knew she was an advocate she was a piece that she was holding a smile also the treatment the behavior of the children on the video was very bad there was even things that they didn't normally eat that makes them very eye-collective they were eating whatever they wanted when they wanted they were starting in front of the TV television there was as far as I was concerned there was no constructive supervision of the children and the other thing was well basically I was just upset about seeing the kids I didn't want them out there in the first place I sent them out there because I thought they would die in the first place because of the way this people came in and shut up my bedroom and everything else with three children in my room so I sent them out there for safety but basically they would be better off here if the kids would die here and they would be better than being in the family okay is there anything else you'd like to say to my family hey you know me I do my own dreams you know I love you very much and I'm not going to tell you that you can believe in what I do in the future okay thank you I'm going to children about the story of Daniel and and and and three friends in Babylon said that in second then he goes so he can't remember what that means those guys were taken into Babylon against their will they didn't eat at the king's table they didn't touch the king's wine they ate what they knew God wanted them to eat and God gave them the blessing God worked through those three children and so remember that's what you do you have this perfect don't forget Revelation 45 whatever you do okay okay and what is your name may I ask Doris Bagan Doris Bagan Doris Wirt you're listening to WBCQ Monticello Maine USA ladies and gentlemen don't believe the propaganda you're hearing the three soldiers who were captured were United Nations soldiers not United States soldiers they were captured within the borders of Yugoslavia English what brings you over to Waco Texas well I've been Adventist church for at least five six years I lived studying my Bible and the teaching that they're giving me the church is two different things okay and I was told that there's somebody here to open the Bible and I was very much interested to know so I come over to hear and I was amazed for what I heard talking caring about what I'm doing or what to me until I get here okay and the rumor has gone around over the radio and the airwaves that you're being held against your will do you have a desire to leave would you like to leave no no I'm here because I wanted to be here you're here because you wanted to be here so you want to continue to learn of course have you had any disappointments here as of recent time because it is very important for people to hear what he's got to say more than trying to put his word on our opinion which it is not right before God because he's not doing things which is wrong he's doing the right he's trying to praise both and I'm introducing them to listen to what he's got to say anything else you'd like to say to friends family abroad or elsewhere well my family don't moan for me I'm alright I'm alive I'm not dead I'm serving a true and living God that sits on the throne and if you do so you can't die so don't moan God sits on the throne anything else ok thank you we have over here right next to you and what is your name and where are you from originally I'm from Jamaica but I reside in Canada for one ok and what brings you here to Lakewood Texas well I was in Manhattan for for 30 years and I watched the church go down down how down take a downhill trend the moral and everything has been you saying it's moral yes and the standards have been very low and I cried to God because I said there must be something better than this in religion so I heard about is the courage who can open the seven fields and I have been reading Revelation and did not understand I get asking about the fields and I was told that Revelation is a closed book and will only be open in the end of time I look around and I can see if this is not the end of time I don't know when I heard that he can open the field I was so happy to get here to listen to him when I came open to see you that's why I'm here so you haven't been disappointed from the answers no I am very happy I'm here would you like to leave and are you being held against your will to leave oh no if I wanted to go I could have gone a long time okay so no one is holding you against your will today no one is holding against my will okay is there anything else you might want to add to family friends or any other comments yes I would like to tell my family and friends in Canada and also Jamaica that I'm alive and well and I'm happy I believe it is the safest place to be on earth right now I'm here for the word of God and I'm here for the word of God for the seventh season and it is my greatest desire for them to open their eyes open their ears and listen and I would be happy if they could be given the opportunity to listen to the scenes because it's all alive okay okay thank you very much okay this is Barry this is my two-year-old son and your name Nicole you're Nicole and Nikki where are you from I'm from Australia and what brings you to America well I came here studying the seventh school then I came over to Australia and I wish my whole family was in the truth that they left when you say see people that might be listening right now understand cliches that religious issues like truth or seven seals so you came here to see and understand something which you thought might be the truth is that it yes okay have you been disappointed not at all I've seen things I haven't seen before every question I've ever had has been answered and I've seen the whole book the Bible I've seen every question I've taken to scholars I have not been able to answer and even before you came to hear David here and to sit down and study with him did you have opportunity to go through any institutions of higher learning before this I was in a college doing a diploma and I did have questions that I did take to theologians and I know if you could answer my questions so it was a religious college yes okay do you have any desire to leave here and are you being held against your will to do so if you did I am not being held against my will I desire to stay here I do not want to leave um Nikki I know that you mentioned that you wanted to say a few words because of an incident that happened about 10 days ago with uh which happened which now left you without a brother did you want to say anything about that with Steve? um I'm I'm very disappointed I mean the whole incident um the ATF came in and they shot my brother because they left his body they wouldn't take his body out and bury it he'd been buried up in the prison I mean I thought this was the country of you know freedom of speech freedom of religion or whatever and just human dignity it just doesn't exist um is there anything you want to say other than that to those that might be watching viewing or to family friends anywhere I'd like to say to my mom mommy mom I really don't understand this I'm really going to be a help person but please you always told me not to judge and that's what I'm going to say in the end you will understand everything anything else Nikki? okay thank you and what may your name be? I'm a girl and you're? Melissa Melissa and Rose Melissa you two seem to be the two controversial persons that the agency wanted to know about because they believed that you Melissa wanted to leave and you were being kept against your will maybe we should get into that first so Rose Melissa what was that all about the other night? well well Dick every annual of the ACS agent and here and she wanted to see the transcript and he was speaking to Marissa and Marissa told him that she believed on the condition and you know and I didn't speak to her and he was prompted and he was telling me that I'm afraid that she wants to go to a sort of friend and you know I can hardly hear you I hope that it comes across on the camera on camera? yes so anyway let's ask the question for Melissa Melissa do you want to leave here? no you don't? are you sure? no did you tell Dick on the phone though that you would leave if a they allowed a Robert Gonzalez you remember that name? Robert Gonzalez they asked you if David could talk to him then they asked you would you leave then and what did you say? yeah but what about now? do you want to leave now? no are you sure? no is anybody is your mom holding you against your will right now? no are you sure? no you're ladies and gentlemen they're making an awful lot about the Geneva Convention in the atrocities being committed in Yugoslavia remember that the Soviet Union was a signatory to the Geneva Convention Yugoslavia under the Geneva Convention under the Soviet Union may have also been a signatory but since the fall of the Iron Curtain there's a new government in Yugoslavia and therefore Yugoslavia is not cannot be a signatory to the Geneva Convention and is not required to obey the Geneva Convention they are no longer a member of the Soviet Union which was the primary signatory it's a new government also ladies and gentlemen understand that the NATO forces is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization committed to the defense of the member states under the NATO charter formed under the auspices of the United Nations charter Yugoslavia is not a member of NATO under the NATO charter NATO has no authority over Yugoslavia has no authority to intervene in Yugoslavia has no authority under its own charter to do anything whatsoever in Yugoslavia Yugoslavia is not a member of NATO NATO I don't know what else we can say or how we can ask it but if you want to leave we would let you leave do you think that's true okay what do you have to say about that road okay well I can understand that especially in relation to what's all happened here very recently so why did you come here again in the first place rose well it's a long story as brief as possible well I'll say a couple of years ago well I'm raised and released to me and I of course not okay so the reason you stay then is what are you is there some reason why you're staying here even in the very for the very reason that there could be harm to your own person and to your daughter why would you even chance something like that why are you waiting for Okay, well, the family's going to be seeing Seek Wakefield, so we can see the events that they play. These are the appointments that are possibly shown already. I don't want to be quite now. Okay. And we also today have another group with us, but I guess it doesn't appear like they're all here, so we'll just wait a moment, just a second. And it appears to be a family. And where is this family from? I'm from England. You're from England. And what is your last name? Henry. Henry. Would you like to give your first name, starting with the young lady to the far left? You're right. Diana. Diana. I'm Phil. I'm Paulina. I'm Stephen. I'm Vanessa. Willow. And what brings you, all the way from England, the nice, lovely home of which I've seen and been in, what brings you to America, to a place called Waco, Texas, or Waco, Waco, Texas? Anybody want to speak first? I've always wanted to know, to understand the Bible. And I wanted to know about the seven fields. And I met somebody who can show me the seven fields. I have my pastors, my ministers. I want to form a seven-day sentence. Nobody can show me. And now I find what I've been looking for. So you haven't been even slightly disappointed? Not at all. Have you asked the hardest questions that you ever possibly could ask in regards to anything religious? I have. And they couldn't tell me anything. They just kept saying, it's wrong, it's wrong. But they couldn't tell me where it was wrong. Have you ever had anybody or have you ever seen in your experience in the past few years anything contravert what this man that you say can do this has? Not at all. I have time myself. Nobody has at all. Okay. The rumor has been that you're being held against your will. Does anyone here want to leave? And are you being held against your will? No. No way. No way. And what is your choice then? What would you like to do as of leaving your experience? I love the experience. As long as he's just here, I'll see. And, okay, go ahead. I thought I'm concerned I ain't going nowhere. I'm staying right here because I believe that where I am is the right place. And that's, you know, where family is here. And, you know, I really like to be here. I know that I'm not going to be leaving it just now. I like to say, too, that I know the people in England, they thought that I was forced into being here. And that is not true at all. This is my own choice. I'd want to stay here. I've come here and I'd want to stay here. And this is where I want to be and I don't want to lose. Okay. This is a life and death situation. And I want to live eternally. And I would like my sisters, my mom and my friends, not to worry about us because we are okay. And I wish that this is revealed that they would listen to and say, take heed. Okay. So this seems to be a very important issue to you is that you're being over here and you're hearing and seeing the Bible. So you're looking to something other than what the world might understand, to things that you don't see with your physical eyes, right? Yes. Okay. Is there anything else anyone would like to say in regards to family, to friends, or about any other issues? Well, I'd like to say that I know that there's a lot of my friends in England who are probably just worried about what I'm doing here. So I'd like to know that I'm fine. It's going to be all right. And I'll see you again one day. I think I am nervous. There will be things on there. Do you hold any animosity or anything against anybody anywhere? No. No. No. No. No. Okay. Anything else you might want to add? I'd like to say hello to my grandma and I'd like to tell you not to worry. And, you know, I'm not held here at the hostage or anything. If one of us wants to leave, we can just go now today. You know, you know, we've been back and forth here. It's free me. I'd like to tell you not to worry and that I will see you soon. Okay. We've got three more races. Okay. Anything else? I'd just like to say that Mr. Koresh has been the most intelligent person I've ever met. He's nothing like what the need is important to be. So you would wish that in your desire that they would even have an open access to being able to ask any kind of question of any subject matter? Okay. Well, maybe someday that will be able to be happening. I don't know. I'd also like to say to my friends that a lot of you know that I coach your scriptures. I know you could show me anything. You know that I coach the ministers. I'd like to say to my friends, you know that when you're giving an opportunity to listen and keep an open ear. Anything else? I'd like to say to Mr. Henry that what he's been saying should mix with error. I wish he would listen at this time and that he would find the real truth in this message. Okay. Is that it? Thank you. Okay, yes, Victoria. And, Ophelia, what brings you here to Waco, Texas? Well, I think I heard about this man that was taking a friend to you. And since I was always looking for some more truth, the truth that the church didn't have. And so you have found him to be able to open up much to you? Yes. It's been said that you're being held against your will, that you're not able to leave. Do you desire to leave or are you being held against your will? I have to desire to stay. I don't want to go. So you're not being held against your will here? No. You also mentioned to me a little earlier that you wanted to say something to your son who is not here. And what might that be? Oh, yes. I wanted to tell my son that I got his message. And not to worry because everything has to happen. Remember that I talked and I talked to the prophet that has to be fulfilled. And the time has come. Okay. Is there anything else you might want to say to anyone else? Also to my family in Mexico. They don't have to worry about it because they know that these prophets are that the people feel. And I want to send my love to them and also my mother. And I want them to read Nahum. The book of Nahum? Yeah, the book of Nahum. And how about that? John 45. Isaiah 45. Okay. Thank you very much, Ophelia. Hi, Derek. Love, love. And where are you from, Derek? I'm from England. What brings you here? Well, I think there's a man that can open the book and read the book. The book meaning the Bible? The Bible, yes. Have you been disappointed? No. Have you done any other study of other denominations or religion in the world? I was a secondary adventure for seven years. What were you before that? That was only religion I'm doing. Okay. Do you want to leave here? No, I don't want to leave here. I feel quite safe here. I don't need to leave and leave. Is someone holding you here against your will? No, nobody holding me against my will. Okay. Also, it's been mentioned that there's a number that would like to leave here. Would you like to see this resolved peaceably? Yes, I will. And so your hope still is that it will be? Yeah, that is my hope. Have you noticed that to be the tenor and the attitude of those people that are here? Yes. Okay. We have not brought that issue up, so we should bring it up now. Is there anything else you might want to say to family, friends, or anything? I would like to say, although to my family back in England, not to worry. But I would like to take your family and think that it is going on. and to tell you that this is the end time of the world being fulfilled in the Revelation. Okay, thank you. Hello, I just want to tell you this. I've been involved, I've seen a lot of religions, and they're all bogus and all full of it. This is the truth, I know this is the truth, and for anybody that knows me, you know that I wouldn't be into something that I didn't think was right, and don't worry about me, because it is going to be okay. Real quickly, are you being held against your will? No, no, no. Do you have a desire to leave here? No. You don't? No. Thank you, Lisa. You're welcome. I'm Scott Sanobi, and I'm not being held here against my will. I want my father, Ken Sanobi, and Honolulu to get my kids. If you're watching, I want you to have my two daughters, Angelica and Crystal Sanobi. And do you have a phone number you might want to give them again? 6808-689-4457. Anything else you might want to say? Don't worry about me, I'll be good. We're going to be just fine, because it's got to take control. Okay, thank you, Scott. Thank you. A comment here, because we're running out of time here. This is only an hour of tape. This is Steve Schneider that has been filming, by the way. It's probably been quite obvious. The comment is that there are a lot more people that did want to talk about if no one had known that, I would have used the longer tape, so we might pick up on this a little later. Many of the men here have not obviously come to the camera and spoken. There are still a number of others, but the overall tenor and the attitude here is that people do not want to leave knowing that everyone is being held against their will. So we might get into some other subject matters here in another day or two. So we'll be in touch, and we thank you for your patience, and we're trying to work this out with you, and we'll do the best we can. But remember, the God of David Christ said, wait, and that's basically what we're doing. Not to be against or defend anyone else or to slow down any process, but we do believe in a living God, as Revelation 7 shows. Thank you, and we will pass this on to you. Kathy's back, and you wanted to make one final statement, and you didn't earlier because why? I didn't want to say anything earlier. I didn't have an emotional composure. I want to add one more thing if I may. Bear with me. I'll take you just a second. Sunday, my husband was killed by ATSA. I want everyone to know that that was totally against Stevenson coming home to his family. He didn't kill anybody. I don't. Okay, we'll pass that on. Thank you. This is David Koresh, Steve Schneider filming. The date today is the 8th, which is Monday, the 8th of March. It is about 4.30 in the afternoon. David, anything you'd like to say? First of all, I'd like to thank the negotiators that we've been discussing with on the phone. We're thinking up on a very articulate portrait of what we perceive each of these fine gentlemen to be. I'd like to share with you some of my family, a dream that, of course, obviously everyone in the world knows something about it. And we just thought we'd kind of break the ice and allow people to see just exactly, you know, what kind of people we have here. I'd like to start off first of all with my oldest son. His name is Cyrus. Who's the oldest son? How old are you? Seven. Seven. Say hello to everybody. Hi. Where's Adam? The camera right there. What did you think about all of this, sir? I don't know. You don't know? You have faith in God? Yes. Okay. You want to wait to all your friends out there that have been taken to the people on the outside? What would you like to have if you could have anything right now? What would you like to have? Um, I don't know. You don't know? Would you like to ride your motorcycle today? Yes. Huh? Tell me you've got a motorcycle. I've got a motorcycle. Okay. I don't know. Anyway, say hello, Jim. Hi, Jim. Hi, Jim. Hello, John. Hello, John. Gary. Gary. Henry. Henry. John. John. There's another John, too. John. Hi, Bill. Dick. And don't forget Dick. And Dick. Okay. I'm Dick. Okay, we'll talk to these people later, okay? Okay, who's your sister? Huh? Star. Star. Okay, you want to come and talk a little bit? Good. Good. Good. Okay. Are you happy? Yeah. Thanks for the milk, too. Thanks for the milk, too. Good. Good. Who thinks the milk? The baby. Okay, thanks for the milk. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. I'm sorry. Show them daddy's face. You might love baby, right? Huh? You love daddy? Yeah. You love all your friends on the outside? Want to see them soon? Yes. Okay. You love God? Yes. And are you a good girl? Yes. Say hello, Tom. Hi. Thanks for the milk. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. What would you like to do today if you could do anything you wanted to? Go in the swing. Okay. Anything else to say? You don't know? It's funny looking at a camera, isn't it? Okay. Great to them. Goodbye. Oh, how old are you? I'm old. Bye. Okay. Bye-bye. Love you. There's our little baby. Where's Popeye at? Ah, Bobby. Come see, Dada. Bobby. Bobby's our little clown here. Wave at the camera, Bobby. Wave at the camera. Wave. There you go. Say hello. Hello. Hello. How old are you, Bobby? Huh? How old are you? One. One year old. Who would you like to do today besides drink some of that milk they sent you, huh? Want to drink some milk? Huh? Want some bub-bye? Want some milk? Huh? Want some na-na? No. Oh, did you have some milk yet? Huh? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, you're very cute. Say that, kid. You're very cute. Okay. Thank you. Okay, go mama. Oh. Oh. Okay, go to mama, Bobby. Mommy. No. Over here. Okay, go to mommy. Come on. Love you. Okay. Oh. Okay. Come on, Baylin. Hey, hot rod. Come on. Let's go. Oh, jeez. Say hello. Hello. I got a wave at the camera there. What's your name? Baylin. And how? Yes, Baylin. Baylin. How old are you? I'm old. Huh? Three. Three? What's your mama's name? Black. Huh? Mickey? Come on, you can talk real good. Tell them your ABCs. Why? Now I know my what? My what? Why don't you come and sing with me? Why don't you come and sing with me? Hey, do you want Jake and all of them to come and sing ABCs with you, son? Huh? Do you love your daddy? Huh? How much do you love me? Three. How much? Huh? Three. Three? You love me three? No more than three? Three. Three. Okay. Anyway. Some better pic? Mm. Love you. Mm. Love you. Go get your sister. Okay. Thank you. All right. Pages. Pages. Hey, Pages. Hey, Pages. What you doing? Pages, look. Pages. Look, look. Pages, over here. Pages, over here. Are you going to play with me? Pages. Huh? Oh, she just turned one too, huh? Yeah, this is our little girl, Pages. She's sweetie, huh? She's an Australian baby. Half American, half Australian. You want to sing? Pages. Pages. Pages. Clap your hands, Pages. Clap. Clap. Hey, you want to clap? Clap your hands. Say hello, Dick. Hello, John. Hello, Jim. Hello, guys. You're going to see sweet. Can you see, Mama? You want to sit down here with her for a second? Yes. Yes. Hello. Hello? I think you're going to sit down here. Tell me a little bit about yourself. Yes. How do we meet, Nikki? We met in Australia. Okay. About five years ago, my... How do you clear? Almost five years ago. At my parents' house. And, um... That's another little treat there, you know. Tell me, I came over to get you, didn't I? Yeah. And who knew about it? Mine, for everyone who got it but me. No. But I've met you two years before, haven't I? Yeah. And, of course, you had nothing to do with me whatsoever, right? Yeah. I was at college. I was doing, um... Climate School, teaching, um... I was doing what I wanted to do. You know, we've been teaching, trying to teach some of our friends here in the FBI, the seven seals. And, uh, the seven seals are, uh... Well, that's about it, ladies and gentlemen. And, uh, I'll be back in just a couple of minutes and we'll do the rest of the broadcast. Taking your calls. And, uh... I want to tell you that the, uh... The person who called about 15 minutes ago, Trying to tell me how to run this broadcast and what to do. Don't bother. Because I'll burn your ass so quick. You won't even know what the hell happened. Don't bother. Okay. Don't bother. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The number is 520-333-4578. That's 520-333-4578. We'll be taking your calls for the rest of the broadcast. It's 520-333-4578. The phones are open. You never give me a chance. Ah! You're listening to the Hour of the Time. I'm William Cooper. Ladies and gentlemen, for those of you still listening, I understand a lot of you gave up because you couldn't quite understand what it was that was being said on the tape. Nevertheless, it was said, and it was said over International Shortwave Radio, and that's what's important, whether you could understand it or not. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Hey, I wanted to check in with you on something. Number one, I've heard bits and pieces of that on Waco, the Rules of Engagement. Yes. It's pretty intense, you know? I need you to talk a lot louder. Let me try it again here. I'm on this crummy phone, apparently. Yeah, you know the UN Supreme Commander Wesley Clark, I believe his name is? Yeah. This hypocrite who's bombing the hell out of the people in Yugoslavia who expressed such anger that the Yugoslavians dare capture three of his supposed people, and it turns out they weren't his people at all. They were UN peacekeeping forces belonging to United Nations Command that are not a part of NATO, that have nothing to do with NATO, that apparently, while they were patrolling a border in a convoy of Humvees in a patrol, decided to go off on their own and cross the border and got captured. Yep. Well, you know, there's a couple of interesting things I heard about him on CBS News the first night of the bombing. Number one is that he's from Little Rock, Arkansas. Did you know that? Oh, my goodness. Oh, this is another Clintonista, communista, bullshit propaganda artist promoted because not that he was eligible for promotion, but that he was a friend of Herr Clinton? Yeah, well, there's another interesting fact for you, too, is that back in 95, he's already had a little dispute with Milosevic already back in 95. He wanted to take a couple of Humvees through some territory. He wouldn't let it. He had to take a more treacherous route, and one of those Humvees flipped and burned with the passengers inside, so he's got a particular bone to pick with this guy already. Oh, isn't that something? Yes, sir, and I heard both of these on CBS News at 6.30. Well, you know, this whole thing is falling apart. Even the Communist News Network cannot keep the truth from the people of the world. So they're beginning to let it out little by little, and not because they want to. It's because they have to. It's because the world, the American people and the world are not for this war, and they are roasting people because of it. We need to get out, buddy. And thanks a lot for your time. You're welcome. Thanks for calling. 520-333-4578 is the number. It's 520-333-4578 is the number. We're going to be taking your calls for the rest of this hour. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello? Chicken plucker. That's what you call somebody who calls in and doesn't have the guts to talk? What's the matter with you? I'm just one lonely person just like you. I got the guts to talk. I mean, why haven't you got the guts to talk? What's the problem here? Why is it that you put the whole load on me? What do you think I am? Superman or something? I'm not. I'm just one lonely person just like you. In most instances, exactly the same. I mean, what the problem? What is it? What's going on here? You know? When you call in, call in to talk. 520-333-4578. What do you think about what's going on? Good evening. You're on the air. Hey, Mr. Cooper, how are you? I'm fine. I need you to talk a lot louder, though. Yes, sir. I'll get the record telephone. That's better. Hey, you know, something is just burning me up right now. Put your mouth right in front of the mouthpiece and please talk louder. Yell if you have to. Can you hear me? That's better. Well, we got this doggone pacifist organization in our area of Indiana here. Every time a soldier would come home and get in a fight, they'd be protesting about it. I could name the religious outfit, but I don't think that's probably right. You know? And that's all we hear about how much they're for peace and all this stuff. And, you know, around here, their relatives and stuff. Now, wait a minute. I don't understand what the... Oh, well, let me get to the point. But right now, where there's all this carnage, they're not saying anything. I don't know. I mean, there's all this... I'm not for wars of any kind. I mean, who would want to... You mean they're anti-soldiers during peacetime and during war, they keep their mouths shut? Is that what you're saying? Well, at the time, they're raising cane over. And now, for some reason, it's like there's nothing coming from these people. When it's this administration doing it. Well, you know what you do? You take a video camera, and you go down, and you get an interview on tape with the person in charge, and you ask them all those questions, and you send me the tape. And I'll make sure that I embarrass the hell out of them. I mean, as a rule... No, no, no. Listen to me. It doesn't do you any good to complain like that on this radio broadcast unless you're willing to pin them to the wall. Yes, sir. So you go with a video camera, and you ask them why they do the things they do when it doesn't matter, and then why they don't do the things they should be doing when it does matter. Get it on videotape. Send it to me. I will make sure that they pay for that. Now, if you can't do that, I mean, just calling me up and complaining about this doesn't mean anything. If you want to make a difference, take my suggestion to heart. Can you do that? Yeah, yes, sir. I always do that when more experienced and knowledgeable folks tell me to do something. I've tried to make it a practice to do what they say. Then get a video camera and go do it. Yes, sir. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Complaining. Make it count. Yeah. Make it count. I'm just... And... Most of the people listening to this broadcast don't know what the hell you're talking about anyway. Pardon me? I said most of the people listening to this broadcast don't know what the hell you're talking about anyway, because you're talking about a local issue. This is a national and worldwide broadcast. These folks are all over the United States. Well, we don't know that. You have chosen not to tell us that. I mean, is it permissible to say what it is? I didn't know. Well, what I would prefer that you do is go get it on videotape and send it to us, and we'll make use of that. I'll just do what you're saying, man. It doesn't do any good to just call up and complain, because nobody knows if you're telling the truth or not. If you get it on videotape and send their words, then we can use it. Okay? Yes, sir. All right. Hey, you've already got a good broadcast. Thanks for calling. Good night. 520-333-4578. Folks, don't call us and complain about local issues. That's your problem. If it's a national issue, if it's a national organization, if it's a worldwide organization, get it on videotape. Send it to us. Even if we don't use it on video, we may be able to use it on audio on our worldwide broadcast. If it's in their own words, it's not your word against them. It's proof. Do you understand what I'm talking about? Well, help us out. Don't be a part of the problem. Good evening. You're on the air. Yeah, Bill. At the beginning of the program, I heard you say that the Art Bell website had been taken over by, was it Serbian or Yugoslavian forces or something to that effect? Yeah. Have you been there? No, I haven't. Well, go there. Why are you calling me and answering? I told you what to do. I told you what happened. I don't have access to the Internet right now. Well, go and find a neighbor who does. Don't take up valuable airtime on this bullshit. I was just wondering if it's just the April Fool's... Don't take up valuable airtime on this bullshit. It is not an April Fool's joke. It is a reality. I told you what to do. Go there. Look for yourself. Don't eat up valuable airtime on this crap with Art Bell. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello, Bill. This is Dave. How do you hear me? Good. I've been listening to your show. It's very interesting. And these three soldiers, a lot of the audience won't agree with me, but you're the expert on military justice. If they took a war vehicle and crossed the border without permission... They're invaders. Well, they're AWOL. That's right. They're desertion. Yes. And they're invaders. And also, if I saw somebody... But you will never get NATO, the United Nations, or the United States government to admit that. They will never admit it. They won't admit it, but the people on the air are hearing it. Yes, they are. And it's the truth. And if I seen some Hummer coming down the road with foreign troops, I won't stay on the air long. I think I'd be in the right, constitutionally and in the eyes of God, to pop them off. Yeah, but they didn't even pop them off. They took them captive. I know. They're being nice guys. That's exactly right. They could have killed them. They didn't do it. They could have killed them for espionage. In fact, in light of what we have been doing to their country, don't you think it took a tremendous amount of restraint not to kill them? I think so. I think so, too. I think United, I think their families, and I think people in this country, better be thanking the Serbs for not killing them when they had every reason in the world to kill them. I agree with you 100%. And if they wind up shot and executed, I have no sympathy. I have no sympathy either. They crossed the border. They went into Yugoslavia. They did it on a lark with this young man's feeling of invincibility. They left their patrol convoy, and they should not have done it. And all of my sources within the Pentagon tell me that they were out of line and that they did it on a lark, that they should not have done it, and that they absolutely were in Yugoslavia when they were captured. And Yugoslavia is not a party to the Geneva Convention. And only the parties who signed the Geneva Convention are parties to that convention and have to obey it. Now, the Soviet Union signed the Geneva Convention, and so did all of the satellite nations of the Soviet Union when it was proposed way back when. The Soviet Union has fallen. It is not the same government. This government in Yugoslavia is not the same government that was or used to be a party to the Geneva Convention under the old Soviet Union. They are not a party to it. They need not live up to it. They need not even abide by it or even read it, for that matter. And these men have committed an act of war against Yugoslavia, a sovereign nation that has not provoked any action toward them by attacking any nation outside their borders whatsoever. And they are, by rights and by law, entitled to try these three men by a military court-martial or tribunal or whatever you want to call it. I agree with you wholeheartedly, Bill. Well, I'll sign off, and God bless you. Keep up the good work. Well, God bless you, too. And don't get me wrong, ladies and gentlemen. I feel sorry for these young men. They're enlisted men. They're pawns in the game. They had no idea what they were doing. They were just three young bucks feeling their oats, thinking that because they belonged to the United States Army, assigned to the United Nations peacekeeping force, that they could just go off and do whatever the hell they wanted to do, and they got themselves in trouble. Good evening. You're on the air. Yeah, Bill. Yes, sir. Can you hear me? I certainly can. How much biblically can I talk or not? How much what? Biblically or like... I would prefer that you leave religion out of this. This is not a religious broadcast. It is. If you want to preach religion, I suggest that you... I would just like to make one statement. That's all. Well, make it real quick. Okay. I think most people should read Deuteronomy 28. You know what? I am really sick and tired of all you religious wackos out there who think the world revolves around your religion. Why don't we read the Bhagavad Gita chapter 3? Why don't we do that? And I'm not saying this to be disrespectful of your religion. I am saying that by shoving your religion down everybody else's throat, you are being disrespectful to the world. And don't get me wrong. I'm a Christian, whether you believe that or not. And when I did broadcasts asking you questions, and that's what I did, who told the truth? Jesus? The Bible? Or your preacher? Oh boy, did I get some letters. All I did was say, who told the truth? Well, who told the truth? If it was Jesus, and it contradicts what you believe, then you're wrong. If it was the Bible, and it contradicts what you believe, then you're wrong. If it was your preacher, and it contradicts what you believe, then you're wrong. The purpose of these broadcasts is not to shove religion down your throat, but to make you think about what you believe, and make you examine your beliefs so that you become stronger in them, or if they are wrong, you abandon them. And the biggest complaint is that I said, if the world believes that Jesus is coming back for the second time, you are wrong. He has already done that. And I am absolutely correct. The first time, he was born of the Virgin Mary. The second time, he was dead and laid in the tomb, and then he came back. The second time, he was risen up. That's the second time. I ask you these questions, and I ask you to examine all of these things, and most of you are so stupid, you never even bothered to ask, is he coming back the second time the wrong question? Should we more properly ask, is he coming back for the third time? But you can't ask that. You haven't a brain. You must criticize me and condemn me because I simply ask the questions. And you haven't got the brains to seek out the answer. You would rather say that Jesus lied than admit that he has already come for the second time. And you might be looking for the third coming instead of the second coming. You stupid, ignorant, apathetic sheeple. My intent was not to tell you what to believe. My intent was not to hurt your religion. My intent was not to condemn Christianity. My intent was to try as hard as I could to make you think instead of blindly believe what you are told. And if that is my crime, I plead guilty. How about that? 520-333-4578 is the number. We've got time for maybe one or two more calls. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know much about anything anymore. Except the harder I try to help people, the more those people try to destroy or hurt me. I don't understand that. I've given more than any of you in this cause. And instead of help, except for a minority who always help, what I get really is hurt, condemnation, injury, destruction, you name it. That's what comes down around my ears by the very people who I am trying to help. Good evening. You're on the air. Yes, Mr. Cooper. Yes, sir. I enjoy your views and opinions. And something, I heard a broadcast on Voice of Russia, it was, I don't know, maybe a week ago. And they were discussing something called the Foundation Act that was signed between their government and NATO. Now, does that make them part of NATO, or what is their connection with NATO? No. All things up to this point have been exploratory. And Russia is not and has never been a part of NATO. Well, what is its foundation act, then? Well, I don't know. But I do know that Russia is not a part of NATO, has never been. It may have been. And act of what? I mean, who passed the act? Well, it was, according to Voice of Russia, it was an agreement between the government of Russia and NATO. Well, it may have been a foundation of processes where they would explore how Russia would become a partner in NATO. Oh, I see. That's what I would suspect. Yeah. But Russia is not a partner in NATO. No. Has never been. NATO has been trying to work up to that. But I think they've pretty much destroyed that. Yeah. And it's not going to happen. Well, there was also a program on Radio Austria where the head of the contact group was saying that there have been proposals made to the Serbs for... Got to make it quick. Come on. Stop stuttering. Okay. For dividing council into two parts. And the northern part to go to the Serbs and the southern part to go to the Albanians. Unfortunately, that's unrealistic and can't happen because Kosovo is holy ground to the Serbs. And if you study the history of that, you'll find out why. And we're out of time, so I've got to let you go. Good night, folks. God bless each and every single one of you. I hope you wake up. And I hope you begin to make a difference instead of being a part of the problem. All of a sudden, in the middle of the night, there's a loud knock on your door. Hey, night. Something's not right. Close your arms. You've been to my asses. We're here from the government. We're here to help you. And I'm from the IRS. With a power to tax. You've got to complain. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. This is a fact. You're out of this house. Surge your taxes. Give me your toll. You better obey if you want to come home. That's for this, sir. And you, as you're told. Hillary Shalala. Reno Janet Dyke. Reading the words of General Albert Pike. Demonic founder of the Kuplex clan. Engineer of the Masonic Master Plan. Captain Luke. Heist and Lucifer's God across this land. And Clinton's saying, take the mark in your right hand. While we're all dancing to the drums of Upward, right? Clinton's preparing it for another. You. Tax. Heist. Order. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha. Order out of chaos. Depression. inflation creates a panic and rates a nation. Crisis creation incites black and white program and education. Don't make this. You're surrounded. A UN and white and white create the up-the-minute blacks from the one world order. But it's not true. And this one baby is for only you.