That's what we learned Using power! Yes, and that appropriate See me. Good evening across America and around the world. You're listening to the Hour of the Time. I'm William Cooper. Ladies and gentlemen, in the earlier hour, which airs at 5 p.m. Pacific, 6 Mountain, 7 Central, and 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, we gave the hour over to Tom Donahue so that those of you who miss him on shortwave would understand why he's not there anymore. Well, after the show, several people called me, both here and at home, to chastise me and tell me that I shouldn't have done that because Tom Donahue has called me a liar and a fraud on his radio show. And we're still getting those calls at home. And I want to tell you to stop. You see, that doesn't matter to me. I believe that Tom Donahue is trying his best to do what he believes is right. He has people like Bobo Gritz whispering in his ear. And, of course, Lars Hansen and several others who have no love for William Cooper or the Hour of the Time because we have exposed them. The truth always prevails, ladies and gentlemen. And ultimately, Tom Donahue will realize his mistake. I did the right thing. He needed help. I gave him an hour of my airtime. And when I go to meet my maker, that's all that counts to me. Don't go away. Someone is on the other end of this phone line who will keep you riveted in your seat. But I want to warn you beforehand. We have not been able to verify much of the story that he's going to tell. So, as always, as always, you must not believe anything that you hear here or on any other talk show or on the 6 o'clock news or from Dan Rather or Ted Koppel. And especially, especially, from Mr. Clinton and his wife, the president, Hillary. Or, for that matter, even your own mother. Don't go away, folks. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. And I knew if I had my chance that I could make those people dance and maybe they'd be happy for a while. But February made me shiver with every paper I'd deliver. Bad news on the doorstep I couldn't take one more step I can't remember if I cried When I read about his widowed bride Something touched me deep inside Today the music died So bye-bye Miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee But the levee was dry And then good old boys Were drinking whiskey and rye Singing this'll be the day that I die This'll be the day that I die Did you write the book of love Do you have faith in God's love It's a Bible teller song And do you believe in rock and roll Can you just save your mortal soul Can you teach me how to dance real slow Well I know that you're in love with him Cause I saw you dancing in the pen You both kicked off with you And I dig those rhythm and blues I was a lonely teenage rock and bus In the pink Chinese and in the pick-up truck But I knew I would try out a lot to the day The music died I started singing Bye-bye Miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee But the levee was dry And then good old boys Were drinking whiskey and rye Singing this'll be the day that I die This'll be the day that I die Now for ten years we've been on our own And moth rose fed on a rolling stone But that's not how it used to be When the Jester sang for the king and queen In a coat he borrowed some Jane He seemed a voice that came from you and me Oh and while the king was looking down The Jester stole his 40 crown The courtroom was adjourned No burning part occurred And while Lenny read a book of Mark The quartet practiced in the pot And we sang Jurgis in a jar And today the music died We were singing Bye-bye Miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee But the levee was dry And then good old boys were drinking whiskey and rye Singing this'll be the day that I die This'll be the day that I die The hell's a skelter in the summer swell Did a bird hit the wall Did a fallout tell me Eight miles high in the falling fast And a flower on the grass The players cry for a forward pass With the Jester on the sidelines in a path Now the halftime air was sweet perfume While the sergeant played a marching tune We all got up again Well, I think you can all get the gist of that. I want to apologize beforehand for my voice. Sometimes I open my mouth and try to say something and nothing comes out. And it doesn't sound correct and I can't project like I normally do So I have the pot turned all the way up And that sometimes can create distortion. So please, I beg your forgiveness And I will try to do what I can on this end To make sure that you can indeed understand me. And Poo, I want to tell you I want to thank you for your concern And your doll is right here with me. Poo was concerned that I'm ill And was going to work by myself And she couldn't go So she sent her doll to be with me. Instead, that's the kind of family we have And that's the way we do things together Whenever possible. Folks, on the other end of the telephone line I have Michael Benn Who has been the man in charge of the Impeach Clinton campaign And I understand they have about Close to 12 million, if not 12 million signatures already And I've got some questions to ask him about this But first, a few things have happened in the last couple of days Which are extremely disturbing And indicate that the old philosophers of fire Are at work again with their torches And we're going to get the story right now And remember before the music I warned you That we have not verified any of this Therefore, you have to do the research You have to check it out yourself We will be investigating And we will let you know the results of what we find Until then, let's welcome Michael Benn To the hour of the time And get his story Hello Bill Hello Bill Hello Well, you just want me to start telling this story? Well, first tell everybody who you are And what you've been doing Because that certainly has a lot to do with what happened, I think Well, it sure does I'm Michael Benn And I'm the initiator of the Impeach Clinton campaign 1993 That really got off the ground last May 1993 And we've been gathering millions of signatures nationwide It only took us 45 days to get into all 50 states And get several thousand people involved with us And then now we have well over 125,000 people That are avidly working hard to get other people involved And Xerox copying the petition and getting signatures We have over 35,000 retail stores Small retail stores nationwide That have made the commitment to put the petition on the counters of their stores I'm talking about like shoe stores, auto mechanics, radiator shops, gun stores Dry cleaning establishments, these type of stores that are privately owned And I think that's a major commitment to put an Impeach Clinton campaign petition Out on the counter of your business You know Well, who are you Michael? What do you do? Well, before I started this and for 25 years before that I've been a specialist in designing neon and electric signs for shopping centers and malls And corporations and things like that Drawing the blueprints and designing, excuse me, designing logos and everything And it just hit me real bad when Clinton took office And wanted to sign gays into the military by a presidential order It really struck me that that was an illegal act And of course after studying it out we found out that that is an illegal act It's an act of not only a dictator But it's an act of someone that's running a parliamentary democracy And of course as time went on we found out that in his own writings he thinks of our government as a parliamentary democracy And it is not a parliamentary democracy They've stuck this word democracy down our throat for so many years We think we're in a democracy But we should really be in a republic But our government is running a long distance away from being a republic Democracy simply means socialism You can call it anything you want to You can make up all these fancy sounding terms Parliamentary democracy Anything you want It boils down to pure and simple socialism Well that's right Yeah and now they call it economic democracy Anything to keep from calling it the S word Yeah, Michael let me ask you something We heard about you a long time ago And I have an extensive organization that stretches all the way around the world And it's an intelligence gathering organization And we heard about what you were doing And the reason that we haven't contacted you before now Is simply this We looked into the law and into the Constitution to find out if what you're doing could be done And we found out Absolutely it cannot be done unless you meet certain requirements The president cannot be impeached unless you can prove Not make allegations But prove that he has committed high crimes and misdemeanors Or has aided or abetted an enemy of the United States of America Which is treason So gathering signatures to impeach Bill Clinton won't work Unless you actually have proof that he has committed high crimes and misdemeanors Do you have any of this? That's very true And what we discovered after looking into this Way back when we started way back in February of 1993 That we started off then with the misdemeanor charges Now you know of course you probably realize the word misdemeanor in the Constitution Doesn't mean like in criminal law something less than a felony You know misdemeanor in the Constitution means a man or woman is a demeanor their personality What kind of reputation do they have? Are they a person that has a reputation of being a liar? Or do they have a reputation of being an upstanding person? And I think it's brilliant that the framers of our Constitution wrote this word misdemeanor in there Because when you read the Federalist Papers You realize the reason they did that Is because they realized sometime in the future there would be men come along That would seek office under false pretenses And lie to get in there And boy if anybody fits that category it certainly is Clinton Let me ask you something Michael Even if you could prove that Which is very easy to do The man has lied about everything he has ever opened his mouth to say Right But even if you could prove that What makes you think that any other politicians would support a move to impeach Clinton When they're all like that? Every one of them are lying Oh, see this is the problem Bill, our government has gone so far You know First of all this is a right that we should have been using long before 217 years down the road Absolutely Yeah, and you see But now here's how we do it We do it through Article 1 of the Constitution Which says the people will have the right to petition their government with redress of grievance Now that's the way we're getting into the government with this In other words, our redress of grievance here is Is that we want the President of the United States impeached for given reasons Now, our given reasons multiply daily You know, we now Give you an example There is a trial that hardly anyone is talking about Down in the 8th District Court of Appeals Now that's where it's at right now Of course right now, exactly right now It's on its way to the Supreme Court But as of November 16th It was still in the 8th District Federal Court of Appeals in St. Louis, Missouri A man named Mace brought the charges The name of the case is Mace v. Blunt Now, Blunt used to be the State Attorney General for Missouri And what happened is that Clinton and the Democratic Party entered into the case as what they call intervenors Because the way Mace was suing Blunt, it drew Clinton and the Democratic Party into it Now what Mace originally started doing was suing the State Attorney General of Missouri for allowing Clinton to run as a presidential candidate in the state of Missouri when he was a treasonous president and that it could be proven in a court of law which would make him unqualified to hold office Now, the case went on and on to where Clinton got involved in it and then after Clinton got sworn in as president, he got the Justice Department to defend him and fired his own attorneys that he was paying And this right there is a violation of law because a public official cannot use the Justice Department to defend him in a personal case And this is a personal case that Mace has brought against Clinton Uh huh So that's an impeachable charge right there And now the 8th District Court of Appeals would not rule on the evidence in front of him And the evidence is so compelling they can't dismiss the case You know of course that Clinton is a communist Of course! And that's what the evidence is put into the court See? And that he is absolutely unqualified to hold office in a constitutional republic government Now, the court finally ruled on December 29th because Mace filed what they call a petition for relevance or emancipate He filed out on November 16th because they just kept dragging this out and dragging it out And finally, with that filing, that is such a prejudiced and far out filing That the five justices of that court came back into session on the 29th of December And ruled that yes, Mace, you have been damaged and so we are going to allow this to go on to the Supreme Court In other words, instead of ruling on the evidence, they ruled that Mace had been damaged Because the court had not ruled on the evidence And so now it automatically goes to the Supreme Court And the way I understand it is the Supreme Court has to hear it now But I think what we are about to find out is if the Supreme Court is ruled by the New World Order or not I mean this is going to be the absolute final test to see what our Supreme Court is going to do Let me tell you what I think We have done a study within the ranks of CAGI, Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence And our findings are that Clinton will resign before the end of this term Well good, then that means all the pressure that everybody is putting on him is working But you see, it is more than that We have got to keep this process going And we have got to get all these characters out of our government that want to take us into this socialism And into this one world order Well you see the problems with this You can impeach Clinton and who is going to take his place? Another Clinton Hug a tree gore Hug a tree gore, yeah And he is worse than Clinton believe it or not The reason nobody knows he is worse than Clinton is because he does not talk all that much Clinton is out in front That is right But if you read his book, if you listen to him, if you go back and read the speeches that he has made in the past You will find that this man is one of the biggest haters of Christians that has ever walked on this earth In his own words He would blame all of the ills of the world on Christians alone, period And many, many other things He was down at the summit in Brazil with Whoopi Goldberg and John Denver and the Dalai Lama And who was that? Oh right, yeah, it was Al Gore I looked and they are there to protest the destruction of the rainforest and the pollution of the atmosphere and the destruction of the ozone layer Here they have this dios made for gods out of probably 200 trees to make this thing It is way up high And then there is thousands of people all looking at this Sitting on this dios where Al Gore, the Dalai Lama, Whoopi Goldberg and John Denver Dictating to the world what they should put in this treaty In order to give one central government control of all the natural resources of the world I sat and watched that and I just wondered just how insane can we be? We get rid of Clinton and Gore goes in You get rid of Gore, who is next? Well, you know, somewhere down the line This government is going to have to realize that the rising tide of people getting together And willing to sign petitions and willing to stand up on a local level and start running now for government I mean we have constitutional groups right here in Dallas that have got 1400 people together Over a month ago now to fill out the paperwork to run for public office in the state of Texas for the election that is coming up this November Uh huh And uh, dad's got an alarm down there in Austin I got news for you Uh, this need to rise up and take our government back At the local level, city, county, state, and then Washington D.C. It has to be done You know, you're telling that story I could just see Ann Richards standing there looking out the window with a glass of scotch in her hand wondering if she's going to have any future This is uh, I love that I love it when people decide to act and get involved and especially run for office Right Now, Michael, have you come under, uh, before the recent events And I don't want to get into the recent events until after the break But before these recent events Were you aware that you were under scrutiny from any source? Well, not really The closest we really thought we were under any kind of scrutiny at all And we never thought of it as a problem As the Secret Service visited us here about four months ago Here at our home And, um, wanted to talk with me And I thought that was fine But, you know, don't stand out on the porch Come on in, we'll sit down in the dining room And, uh, I had to convince them that that was alright You know, and my main purpose for doing that Is I wanted to show them that we're normal people Middle class people That's just upset with our government And we're taking legal, constitutional action to do something about it Uh huh You know, we're not white supremacists We're not, uh, uh, any of these things Uh, we're just normal people Yeah, you're not circulating a petition to assassinate Clinton You're circulating a petition legally to impeach Clinton But that's why they were here to ask us those questions Was our plan to assassinate the president? Was our plan to overthrow the government? We're going to overthrow the government Okay, well that's good Come to the door and answer me that And I'll, you know Well, they already knew the answer to that I'll tell you exactly why they were there, Michael They knew the answer to all those questions They were there to scare you To intimidate you Most people, if they had a visit from the secret service Asking them those kinds of questions Would stop everything And you didn't, why not? Why not? Because we weren't intimidated by it, you know Good for you Bited them in And I said, you know, you need to understand That we don't think you're the enemy But we think you're working for the enemy You know, not everybody in government is the enemy They have jobs They're making a living, you know Well, you're very kind I don't believe that myself I believe that if somebody's working for a system that they know They know is treasonous That they know is not working according to the law That they know is working under the color of law That they know has literally shredded the Constitution and flushed it down the toilet To me, they are the enemy I don't care how much they profess their innocence Or they're just taking orders You know, we heard all that from the Nazis in World War II But yeah, Bill, you're right If they know that much But you've got to understand something Carol and I Back in January and February of 1993 Did not realize that this country had filed bankruptcy in 1933 Did not realize that they're not running constitutional You know, we've been raised from childhood to believe that we're in a free country We're free to do what we want And our government is there to help us, you know And millions and millions of people are still under that impression You're right But these people are outside the government The people are in the government Working in the government Accomplishing these things They know what they're doing They're not that stupid You can't tell me that these police officers Who are busting down doors in the middle of the night Without search warrants Confiscating people's property unconstitutionally And then auctioning it off And not even charging anybody with anything Nor taking them to court Nor having them convicted of any crime You can't tell me that they don't realize That they're violating the Constitution Well, I think they're absolutely criminal Yes, absolutely Yeah, and with the way things are taking place In the country right now And Waco being an open attack of war I think there needs to be some tribunal courts of war set up To try these people I really do And, you know, it happened in France I don't know how many people listening tonight Know the history of France, you know But they... We better be careful We don't want to happen here what happened in France Well, that's true Because once they started those guillotines going They didn't care whose head they chopped off They were chopping off anybody's head they could grab Well, that's true Things like that get out of hand You better believe that Somehow we have to keep things lawful But the government is certainly not keeping things lawful I'll tell you that They're getting completely out of hand And after... I guess you want to wait until after the break But... Yeah, well I think that there is an intentional campaign With malice aforethought To create a total breakdown of the structure of our society And bring us into a state of chaos and anarchy So that they will be justified in bringing about a total brutal dictatorship I think you're exactly right Yeah, and I would have never believed that myself Eight months ago And fortunately there's people waking up though See, Clinton has been a big wake up call to millions of people Oh yes And listen, we get calls every day here on our recorder Saying, thank you very much Michael I got your newsletters I read them I didn't know things were so bad But we're going to support you and we want more newsletters And we're going to start looking into these things See, people now by the millions are starting to get educated It's just not constitutional groups of 10 or 15 people In every major city doing this anymore It's now millions of people waking up So that's a step in the right direction And Linda Thompson is waking up a lot of people Tom Donahue, you, Valentine, everybody I mean, this is a big wake up call and it has to happen pretty quick Everybody's got to get out of the bed pretty quick here Well, it's going to disintegrate into some sort of chaotic situation And I just hope we can come out of it without losing everything in the process Unfortunately, looking back through history What you get when you come out of something like this Ain't what you started out for when you began it So everybody has to be careful what they begin Well, hopefully some good men will come to the top Like in the revolution to break away from Britain I mean, George Washington and the founders of our Constitution Had an opportunity, if they were self-serving men To form another monarchy Well, they weren't self-serving They were serving a higher cause They were and this is the kind of men that we need to come to the top now They were serving what they called the brotherhood of man And they had a hidden agenda for creating this country And that was to give man the first taste of freedom in the history of the world And thus topple the kings and queens from their thrones And it would prove whether or not man could truly rule himself And all of them didn't think that we could And we're proving that their fears were justified Because what's happening, believe it or not Is not the fault of anyone but ourselves We let it go We were apathetic, we were ignorant, we were stupid And we have let it slip out of our grasp Now we've got to get smart and get it back Well, I think with the knowledge of what's going on We'll get it back We've just been duped, you know Listen, it's easy to believe that Hey, let's turn on the 6 o'clock news and see what's going on in the world It's easy to believe that Free press, huh? Yeah, it's so free nobody knows about the Mace vs. Blunt case That's how free everything is Yeah Okay, why don't you just hang on there We're going to take a break And when we come back we're going to talk about what's happened in the last few days Okay Dragap質 Two tables And when we switch to them A small box starts to remain Then go go to the Around 365 The Cavan mois Well, folks, you're hearing it here, and you're hearing it straight from the horse's mouth, as usual. What you're hearing does not portend good for our future. We know that things are disintegrating. We know that the dollar is losing its value. We know that our industry is moving to foreign countries. We know that this GATT and NAFTA treaty thing, this scam, is going to eventually eliminate the middle class in the United States of America. And if you go back and read the writings of Karl Marx, you'll see that he propounded free trade to do exactly that, to eliminate what he called the bourgeoisie, so that class wars would then ensue, leading to the establishment of a Marxist, socialist, communist state. What's happening in this country, ladies and gentlemen, is what happened during the 30s when Hitler was rising to power. What's happening in this country is what happened in Russia and in the eastern bloc states shortly after, and during the Bolshevik revolution. Now, none of these things happened by accident. And if you trace the money, remember, always follow the money, you'll see that Hitler and the communists in the Bolshevik revolution were backed by financial interests in New York and London. They're the same people who funnel money to the terrorists around the world. They're the same people who give money to Israel and then to the Arabs. 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So I got up and looked out the window, and I saw this white, gray fog real thick rolling in all over the neighborhood. And I really couldn't see past two feet out my window. But I could still hear these helicopters, and they sounded very, very low to the house. And then they moved off across the street, and then about like 100 yards down the street. And then they faded off and went away. So I thought, well, you know, maybe the fog is just making the noise echo, and maybe they're not as close as I think. So I just laid back down and went to bed. And, of course, I looked at the clock, and it was a quarter to seven. And a quarter to seven here in Texas is still not quite daylight. And so I went back to sleep. And then here I hear fire engines coming down the street. It woke me up again. And I looked at the clock. It's like one minute after seven, two minutes after seven. And I thought, well, I have to get up and go outside and see what in the world is going on because there's something really wrong here. Went outside, and by this time it's almost completely daylight. And about 90% of the fog had left by this time. Was this a natural fog or was this something else? I don't think it was a natural fog. You know, Carol and I make a real strict habit of praying over all the mail that comes in here and standing on Psalms 91, which says that anyone that professes the Lord as his Savior and stands on this word that their home will be protected from any harm, along with a bunch of other things that Psalms 91 says. And, you know, we feel like that the government is evil, and we feel like we need to do these things. We pray over the petitions. We lay our hands on them every day as they come in and pray that these people will be protected from the evil that's in this government. Let me comment on something you said. Our government, Michael, I know what you mean, but a lot of people out there don't know what you mean. Our government is not evil. Our government is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. What we are currently being called under, what we are being ruled by now, is not our legally constituted constitutional government. Well, that's right, and that's the one I mean. You're exactly right. I guess I should start distinguishing that myself. But, you know, I really feel like we have had protection here Tuesday morning. We certainly put Psalms 91 to the test. At any rate, I walked out in the street, and a bunch of the neighbors were out there. The fire trucks were now running into the house just 100 yards away from us. The people and the three children were running out with a handful of clothes and crying and screaming. And I asked one of the neighbors what in the world is going on. They said, we don't know if it's an electrical fire or whatever. And I says, well, gosh, you know, there seems to be a lot of disturbance in the neighborhood this morning. I said, did you hear a bunch of military helicopters that seemed awful low to the grounds? And the woman said, yes, I certainly did. And she said, it certainly woke me up. And the man across the street said the same thing. At any rate, I'm not associating these helicopters with the fire. And so it takes them a couple hours to put it out, and everybody's walking back into their house. And I'm going on with the day's activity of getting the mail out, the people that have called in to us. And then we begin to notice that within two hours, here comes six, seven, eight white Chevrolet plane cars, brand new ones, the middle size. Guys getting out in suits with cellular phones up to their ear, walking down to that house. Two of them parked across the street from our house and looked over at our house, then walked down to the house that was burnt out. And I told Carol, I says, you know, Carol, this woman must have an awfully good insurance company. Look how many agents they send out here. And they're already out here, and it's just been two hours. And then a van comes up in front of their house, and they take the TV out of the house and all the electrical appliances and a few chairs and everything, and then that van takes off. And I said, I have never seen an insurance company so quickly help people before in my life because I'm still not associating this with being, and secret service people and federal agents. And then around 6.30 that night, I saw my neighbor across the street at 7.11, and I said, it isn't a shame what happened down there. And I said, has anybody found out what caused the fire yet? He said, well, at 4.30 in the afternoon, I walked down there, and a bunch of guys in their suits and everything, they were in those white cars, telling the fire marshal that the house was hit by lightning. And the fire marshal told me, he said he didn't know what caused the fire because there was no electrical problem or anything. But these guys were insisting that the house was hit by lightning, and he said, I told them, he said, there was no rain this morning, no lightning, no anything. And I says, well, did you hear those helicopters this morning? He says, yes, I sure did. And so a lot of people in the neighborhood are real upset about this because now it's become obvious that it has something to do with the helicopters. Michael, what kind of a phone do you have? What kind of a phone? Yeah. What kind of phone are you using? It's not a cell phone. Well, you're cutting out, but something's going on here. Really? Yeah. Everything seems to be all right on my end. Okay, just make sure you don't move the cord between your handset and the phone. Sometimes those things can cause a break. All right, is this better now? Yeah, I'll just go ahead and continue. If it starts to do it again, I'll stop you. Okay. Okay, at any rate, it gets to be Wednesday morning and about 45 minutes after daylight, I decide I need to get up and go down there and see if anybody's down there. Well, there's two guys down there digging stuff out of the attic, taking parts of the roof out, and loading it into an 18-foot flatbed trailer parked out front of the street. Ah, the evidence. Yeah. They must destroy the evidence just like at Waco and everywhere else. Yeah. And then there's a guy standing outside, looks like a construction worker. He drives up in, like, what are these things that are like a car, but yet it's a Jeep. I think Chrysler makes them. Winnebago or something. I don't know, whatever. I don't know. It's like a car Jeep thing. At any rate, a lot of construction people use those vehicles, but this one just happened to be new, and I noticed there was no construction tools in the back of it or anything. This guy was trying to look like a construction worker, except he was clean shaved, hair combed perfect, executive cut. Now, wait a minute. You're going to make a lot of construction workers angry out there. I know a lot of construction workers that shave and have clean haircuts. The point I'm making to you is, as I go on here, his clothes were brand new, his boots were brand new, and he's got a clipboard in his hand. And so I asked him, I says, well, are you with the insurance company or the construction company? You rebuilt the house already? And he says, yeah, we're here to clean it out and rebuild it. And I said, oh. I said, well, did you ever figure out what started this fire? And he says that it was hit by lightning. And I said, well, there was no lightning or rain here Tuesday morning. He says, yeah, this house was hit by lightning, and that's the official ruling. So I started to walk up and walk in the house to look around, and he walked up aggressively towards me and made it clear to me that I was not to go in there. He says, you don't want to go in there. You could get hurt. And I said, well, okay, fine. That's a threat. Yeah, I know it is. And so I just walked back home, and I told Carol what was going on down there. And we watched the place, and at 10 o'clock, they drove away with the trailer and never came back. And I started calling some friends of mine around Texas here that are helping us with the campaign and everything and telling them the whole story and that these helicopters obviously missed our house in the fog or whatever happened here because there was no lightning or rain or anything. And then after we got on the phone and started telling people that, at 1 o'clock on Wednesday, here comes two of these black helicopters. One of them comes down. They're on top of each other. And one of them comes cleared down so low to our roof that it ripped 27 of the tiles loose and slung them out in the backyard from the wind from the helicopter. Yeah. And stayed there for like three minutes. And our dogs just went crazy in the house. The cats went crazy. And the roof actually shook. And this is a pretty big house. And it was really frightening. And then they went away after about three minutes, just pulled off on an angle like they do in the movies, you know, real fast on an angle, and then went away. Any of your neighbors see this? Listen, the neighbors at this point don't want to talk to us. They don't want to talk about this. That really makes me angry. That means they're a bunch of stupid sheeple, and they would watch you murdered in your front yard and wouldn't do a damn thing about it, wouldn't they? It kind of looks that way, doesn't it? Well, I'll tell you. If any of your neighbors are listening, I hope they hear this, because in my estimation, anybody who acts that way is nothing but scum in my book. Well, I'll tell you. I guess it takes a lot to get people off their duff and start acting. Not around here. Everybody's militia. Good. We're starting to get that going here in Texas, too. I'll tell you that. Good. And so, you know, by this time, we called a private investigator that we know, and he couldn't get here until Thursday. And so he came Thursday, and of course, by this time, they're all gone. Nobody's around. The woman that owns the house is not around. We haven't figured out what happened to her until today, which it seems to be all right. They've got her convinced that the house was hit by lightning, and now the real insurance company has showed up today, which is a week later, and real construction people are there today giving her a price on everything. And anyway, on Thursday, the private investigator that we called in, that we know personally here in Dallas, to come down there and look at the house and see what could be done. I didn't. When I was relating the story to him, I forgot to tell him that they had taken the TV out and everything. So we walked down and looked at the house, and he says, well, it's very obvious that this house was hit in four different places on the roof by something. And lightning does not hit in four different places. And he says, now, look up here, Mike. The fireplace coming out of the center of the roof, it has a big TV antenna on it with two ground wires coming down from it. Now, he said at least one of those ground wires would be burning half. Well, this is lightning country here. In fact, aside from Florida, this is the second highest incident state of lightning strikes in the country. And I know that lightning always hits the highest point that's grounded. That's right. Which means that it would have hit that antenna if it has ground wires going to ground before it hit anything else. That's exactly right. That's what he said. And he said, now, since the antenna's on the roof and it's got ground wires, what we need to do is get in the house and take the back off the TV. He said, I've got a, well, some kind of meter he's got. And he said, we can stick it on the TV, take the back off, stick it on the TV. And the way the ohms meter reads, that's what it is, an ohms meter. The way the ohms meter will read, it will tell you whether the house has been hit by lightning or not. And I says, my God, they loaded up the door key and the appliances and hauled them away. He says, you're kidding me. He says, well, man, this is really looking bad now. I said, that's one of the first things they did was bring up a great big van truck and load up the TV and all the electrical appliances and a bunch of chairs and everything like that and left. Where are all these petitions, Michael? They're in the, well, not all of them are in the house here. We've got over 400, actually closer to 500 groups now nationwide that are not only collecting them, but they're keeping them because they have, you know, thousands of them. I would suggest that you get whatever petitions you have out of your house surreptitiously, if you know what I mean, and into other hands that you can trust. And if I were you, I would arm myself and I would move someplace where I had neighbors that I could trust. It sure sounds that way, doesn't it? And I wouldn't even bother to even acknowledge the humanity of the people that are around you if they're treating you that way. Well, you know, maybe they're just going through this stage where they don't want to believe this or anything, you know. I've been through several stages myself in the last few days. I mean, this is frightening to think that we're supposed to be living in a free country where the government is supposed to protect your rights to live a peaceful life, and the government is coming in to harass you, and not only harass you, but actually shoot missiles at you? Hey, this is getting real serious. Oh, yes. It's been real serious for a long time. Anyone who didn't understand what happened at Waco and how serious it already is just ain't playing with a whole deck of cards, my friend. Well, I'll tell you what. In our report number five that we just came out with, we've got one page in it that's a memorial to the people down there, and it shows two tombstones on the page. And on one of the tombstones, it lists all the children and their ages that were killed, and then on the other tombstone, it lists all the names and ages of the men and women that were killed. And it says, I put on the sheet of paper that you will not be forgotten. And it says a one-year memorial, because their one-year memorial is coming up here pretty quick. So this is just really tragic what's going on with our government. And here's another thing. When the Secret Service was here four months ago, as they were leaving, one of them turned to my wife, Carol, and said, you know, you have an awfully nice home here to be doing what you're doing. So, you know, these guys, you know, I guess I made a mistake when I told them, hey, we don't see you as the enemy. Don't you understand that the Secret Service works for the Department of the Treasury? And you know what is really funny? One of the things I said to them, because they were here for about three hours and we were talking, and I said, you know, this idea of a new world order in the United States, we're just not going to go for this. People are just not going to accept this. And they looked at each other and never said a word, you know. And I thought about that later and I thought, well, you know, they must think I'm stupid, you know. They don't take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. Were you aware of that? Well, see, that's what I didn't know at that time, but I have learned that since. So obviously they were looking at each other like, you know, this guy is really stupid, you know. Yeah. See, these people don't work for the United States government or the United States Treasury. They work for the Department of the Treasury, which is an arm of the International Monetary Fund, which is an agency of the United Nations. See, this is bad. Lloyd Benson actually receives his paycheck from the International Monetary Fund and not from the United States government under the Treaty of Bretton Woods. Well, you see, this is the type of thing that millions and millions of people have got to learn. That's right. Truth about it. See, this is the only thing that's going to get people gelled together and organized to stand against them, coming door to door and taking our weapons away from us and stopping. See, without our weapons, we have no chance to stand against this. That's right. And this is really bad what's happening. And, you know, I've heard these stories about black helicopters before. I kind of halfway take it to heart. And then I go, well, geez, you know, that sounds so outrageous. But, man, when it happens to you, all of a sudden it hits home to you that there is a real serious problem here. You know, I mean, more than serious. You know, this is like a third world nation or something. Well, the problem is that we are and have been for a long time at war, and most people are so ignorant about their own country that they don't even know it. This is the problem. That's what I said earlier. We think we're living in a free land and we're free people. It's not true. That's right. It's not. And isn't that a shame I have to say that? And isn't it a shame that we have to fear for our home now? My Lord. Well, I would advise you, well, it depends upon what you believe. I believe in God and I believe that the only thing I have to worry about is whether or not I'm doing the right thing according to what God gave us to follow, His law. And if I'm doing the right thing, then it doesn't matter if I die ten minutes from there. I'll be okay. You're right. You're exactly right. And that's exactly the way Carol and I feel. And that's exactly why we take the stand that we do. And I just really feel like there was a divine protection here. That's the only thing I can figure out that happened. Because here's another thing, Bill. This is another thing that the detective pointed out that I didn't even realize. He said, Mike, look around the neighborhood here. I said, yeah, you know, all custom homes. Because this is a very nice area. He said, well, what compares to this home that was hit to your home? And he said, now, look, your house and this house that was hit are the only two in the neighborhood that have similar roof lines except this one is in reverse. All the rest are totally different. And he said, all the rest have fireplaces going up the side of the house. He said, the house that was hit and your house are the only two houses on this street that have a big fireplace coming up through the center of the house and out the center of the roof line. And what else is similar? The house that was hit and our house are the only two fireplaces that have the brick structure, the way the top of the fireplace is put together. The bricks are actually put together in an X formation to make a design around the top of the fireplace. But we're the only two houses on this street that from the air could possibly look similar alike. So they deployed their camouflage smoke screen and then got lost in it. These guys seem to be like Keystone cops, don't they? Well, yeah. I mean, they're dangerous. I mean, they're really dangerous. I'm not trying to belittle the danger here. But everything that they've done so far, the Weaver, the Branch Davidians, the Gordon Call up in Whidbey, everything that they've done has been a Keystone cops episode. I'll tell you what. Well, I guess there's a couple of helicopter pilots in real trouble, huh? The only reason they get away with what they get away with is because most of the American people don't understand what's happening. And they tend to believe the propaganda. And if these people are politically incorrect, regardless of whether they've ever been proven to have committed a crime, then they deserve to die. You see, this is the problem, isn't it? See, this is exactly what Hitler and Nazism did in Germany by saying, hey, the Jews are abusing their children. That's right. They said the same thing. That's exactly right. And the German people accepted it. And you hear it again today. You hear the old things coming back today. All, everything. You go back and study that ten years from 1930 to 1940, and everything that you heard there, you are hearing here now. Everything that happened there is happening here now. They're saying the same words. That's right. And everybody there was expecting a Messiah. And everybody here is expecting Jesus to show up tomorrow morning on the doorstep. And I'm telling you, he ain't coming tomorrow morning. That's exactly right, Bill. And I keep trying to tell people that we're associated with in the Christian community here, stop saying to me that it doesn't make any difference. We're all going to be raptured out of here. I keep telling them, I say, look, you're going to be waiting for the rapture in a concentration camp. That's right. You don't stand up and do something about this government. It's the greatest propaganda ploy. 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