...thing that I do. Turning over the tape. How many of you have been listening to these Y2K doomsayers? How many of you listen to the last day prophet of God? You know, I don't care what all of these people say. They have a right to say whatever they wish, as long as they're not hurting the personal property of any other people. But they are. They say, Brother Stare can spout until his nose turns blue that it's the end of the world. And so can the Midnight Watchmen and everybody else. It is not the end of the world. The world is not going to end. There are not going to be gigantic, unbelievable earth changers at the millennium. There are going to be the normal floods and volcanoes and rains and heat spells and droughts and all of that kind of stuff, just as the world has always known. Every once in a while, one of these things will be exceedingly dangerous or catastrophic. But the world is not going to end. And California is not going to fall off into the sea all the way up to my property line in Arizona. And all of the other things that these doomsayers are using to whip you into millennium apocryphal fever. And all of you running around saying that you don't have to get involved in anything or care about anything because Jesus will be here tomorrow, you are wrong. He's not coming tomorrow. He's not coming until you've all forgotten about Him and you think He's never going to come and then He will show up and be right in your face if there is such a thing as Him ever coming back to begin with. You see, because if you read what He says, and if you study what happened with Him and His disciples, either He's a liar or He's already been here. And I don't think He's a liar. I think your preacher is. That's what I think. Everybody quotes everything in the Bible except what Jesus Christ said in the Bible. The words written in red. They never read those. They never read those. Nobody ever quotes those words. And those are the only words that I read. You see, I don't read any of the other words. Isn't it amazing? That doesn't mean that I'm right. Doesn't mean that you're right or that you're wrong. It just means, ladies and gentlemen, that everything is cockeyed, screwed up, and everybody's running around spouting off stuff they don't know anything about. And they've got people stirred up like Art Bell does every night in mass hysteria and full-blown panic. And you know what? I wanted to stay up and hear the evolution of Sean David Morton from the tempering little wimp son of Satan that I first met back in 1989 to the great con man that he has become. And I couldn't do it. I was too tired, so I went to bed and I didn't hear a word he said. So when we open the phones, whoever of you listened to Art Bell, I would like to hear, I would like to hear the prophecies that he made last night that are going to help whip the world into the mass hysteria needed to cause the final move into world government. And no, he's not causing world government. He's just one little ripple on the pond that is building into the big wave that's going to carry us there. Art Bell is a bigger ripple. I mean ripple. Is ripple a whine? Somebody told me once there's a ripple whine. I've heard that. I don't know. I have no idea. He whines a lot. Maybe. Yes, he does whine a lot. He does. I hate whiners. Oh. Whiners are amazing. Let's open the phones. 520-333-4578 and see what you've all got to say about all of this. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello. Goodbye. Well, there was somebody there. Now there's nobody there. So, anyway, the phones are open. 520-333-4578 Let's hear what you've got to say about all this. What do you think about this? What you just heard? What did you hear last night that is going to help move us into this? Help create the great panic and the mass hysteria throughout the world that's going to rush us into this? Because that's where we're going. It's exactly what's happening. Good evening. You're on the air. Hey, Bill. It's Professor again. You talked to me twice in the last week. I heard some of Sean David Morton's predictions last night on Art Bell. Care to share them with us? Did you listen? No, I didn't. I just said I didn't. I was so tired. Remember during the broadcast last night I was exhausted. I was tired all day yesterday. I tried to stay up and I just couldn't do it. Bill, I'm struggling with some inferior short waves. Can you tell me what would pull... I'm on the move all the time so I need something very portable. A grungy god boy, tell me. What would be my best bet? I'm getting you real scratchy right now. Oh, I can't do that because if I recommend one and it's not right for you then you're going to... You know, I don't know that much about radios. I do know that Sangions are good radios and we offer three different models. If you don't like the models we use you can go anywhere near you and buy whatever you do like. We recommend and sell Sangions because they have proven to me throughout the years that they're one of the very best for the most reasonable price that you can find. Look, a while ago when you mentioned what you said about Jesus not coming and all that was very scratchy and I hate to have you repeat yourself but let me just say something real quick and then I'll try to listen to you back on the radio. I believe Art Bell has a lot of people on that are possessed. I believe Sean David Morton is possessed. After we had our discussion about Art Bell the other night I looked at your site what you said about Art Bell. I saw the logo. I know he has a lot of very satanic occultic I mean let's face it what is occultic is satanic. Do you agree? No, that's not true. Occult simply means hidden. Concealed. The word occult has no other meaning except concealed. If you conceal something from your wife you are engaging in an occult practice and that's the truth. Okay, but in the reference or inference to the occult worship of spirit beings such as whether it be Baal like you know the Baal logo of Baal the eye over the Horus whether it be Horus we recognize that that is always leads to Lucifer. Do you agree to that? They believe in the Luciferian philosophy not in Lucifer. You have to understand now that you're getting into this and you haven't studied it like I have. They do not believe in God they do not believe in the devil they do not believe in Lucifer these are all metaphors. They believe that man is God through the use of his intellect he will conquer life the universe and be able to live forever and do anything. That's what they believe. They are secular humanists and that is their religion. What if so many of their writings they make contact with I mean if you heard No, no you're reading an esoteric text and you're interpreting it in a literal interpretation and you cannot do that. You don't understand the language. So you believe there is no being. That's not what I said. I said this is what they believe. It doesn't matter what I believe it matters what they believe because whatever they believe will affect us. Do you understand that? Yeah I sure do. What they believe affects us because they are pushing forth their agenda. Yes and they have the power to do it. They are in the places of power. I'm just trying to fill in a gap here. I know so much of I understand so much of what you always say. I'm just trying to fill in a gap here from our own consumption. Reading an esoteric text without understanding the language and interpreting it literally is like going to Greece and never having learned the Greek language and thinking that you know what two people are saying when they're having a conversation in Greek. I'm telling you you don't. Well the text I place above all is the Bible and the God I place above all is Jesus and whom the Holy Spirit will be given to those that believe and will give them spiritual discernment. My question for you Bill are there demons roaming the earth right now and Satan seeking whom he may devour? Are there spirits in which we must battle a battle which is not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers rulers and rulers spiritual wickedness in high places and rulers in darkness? Let me put it in a way that everybody listening will understand it. I believe that the battle we are engaged in is the ages old battle between those who believe in God and those who do not. It is a spiritual battle for the soul of the human being. Okay I'm sorry about that ringer. That's alright. Okay so are there any demons roaming the earth or any spirits roaming the earth now in your opinion? I have no idea. I've never seen one. Well okay. I believe that if you felt one your opinion may change then drastically. It could yes. Or if you felt one your opinion may change drastically. What do you do with people like Bill Schneblin and say Dot Marquis and so many of these people that have come out of the occult high ranking well you know they achieve high ranks in Luciferian worship they say they say Bill you don't miss a beat you get around to challenging everybody and that's it. I have to challenge everybody because you must at some point in your life learn to think or you are doomed. Well well you know they say I can tell you from my study of the Illuminati they do not and have not ever worshiped Lucifer. They worship the light Lucifer the metaphor the fire and it all is a metaphor for intelligence the mind of man that's what they worship. Bill this has been very I hate this word enlightening but that's why they're called the philosophers of fire. I see a unity in all of that I see such a unity you're damn right then how can these men be that united unless there was a spiritual a spiritual glue if you would a spiritual adhesive that holds this whole mishmash together there is a discipline you're asking to understand in a couple of minutes on a phone conversation what it took me 26 years to learn and I'm going to tell you you can't do that you have study ahead of you Bill I have been attacked by demons and I have defeated them in the name of Jesus Christ they have left me alone they were on top of me holding me down and I could not move nothing but my head I don't know anything about that I can tell you this I cannot accept your word of it except that that's what you're telling me is your experience I'm not neither am I saying that you're lying to me what I'm telling you is this never happened to me there is no scientific evidence of it I cannot validate what you're saying if that's what you want me to do I cannot do it and will not do it each man in his own experience must come to what it is he's supposed to understand look you've enlightened me a great deal in my life and since I've come across you since 1995 and I am grateful what you have done is started that fire in a lot of people that got them to think and look and do their homework now see a lot of people out there who don't know that we just discussed the meaning of fire think that you're talking about striking a match and lighting some paper and you're not and that's exactly right you see they're doing with what you just said with what you do when you read the esoteric texts of the mysteries well I've basically just confined my study mostly to the bible and with that can't do that if you don't study your enemy you can't fight the battle you don't know who he is what he believes in where he is what weapons he uses or anything else you're lost on the battlefield you don't even know where the fighting is at but Bill you're talking to a man that has battled two demons well I've personally battled two I'm not talking about battling demons I'm talking about battling in this world for the freedom of mankind I'm talking about for the future lives of your children I'm talking about doing the right thing rooting out and discovering and destroying the evil in man's machinations that would enslave humanity Bill on my website I have a quote right out of the Bible it says where the spirit of God is there is liberty where that spirit of God is there is liberty tell that to the Christians who believed in God and had the spirit of God with them and were thrown to the lions in the Colosseum in Rome I think that they would give you a different story as they were torn limb from limb and devoured in front of your eyes and it's not dead yet Bill and there will be plenty more of that going on well I don't know about that in Elberton Georgia there will be plenty more of that going on I've been there and seen where sacrifices will be carried out I would say in the near future and I believe your timetable for many of the things you say is pretty much on time the coming economic destruction is now it's probably it hit me like a wave I told a man standing here he was an Indian right in front of me I said the stock market will fall 500 points this July it was July 3rd I said before the end of July it will fall 500 points and will fall a great deal after that it just hit me like a wave I have the Holy Spirit you there Bill yeah I have the Holy Spirit in me and he tells me things like that I don't need to put the ball and I know you studied the mystery schools I'm just going to tell you that you are dead on target about what you're telling these people tonight and they had better get on their knees and prepare with their Lord first and then do what the Holy Spirit leads them to do and if they don't have that then they're going to be in some serious trouble and they may end up standing in line taking the mark very gladly the mark card says multi-automated reader chip you know that's your mark and the beast battle engagement aerial simulation tracking isn't that what it's called no battle engagement no but that's what a lot of these silly publications have you ever worked with Norio Hayakala I know Norio Hayakala I know you do but I mean have you ever worked with him in other words did you ever do a project of any type with him like Anthony J. Hilda yeah I've worked with him hold on and I know Anthony J. Hilda too hold on you're listening to WBCQ Monticello Maine USA now you may continue I'm sorry anyway I met him in Atlanta at a Voice of Liberty Citizens Constitutional Georgia meeting Rick Tyler was hosting him there but he's done a lot on the Mark card and the Beast computer and all of the I've seen all this stuff it floats around the Patriot community like crazy whipping people up into millennium apocalyptic fever and everybody is running around like a chicken with their head cut off doing everything except what they're supposed to be doing do you believe there will be a literal mark of the beast still I'm not worried about that if there is I'm not going to take it why should I worry about it and spend my time running around in panic because there's some mark of the beast I'm not involved in it Anthony J. Hilder is a friend of mine he's also a sensationalist Anthony J. Hilder has never researched anything that he has ever said on his radio show I know him I like him in my personal life when he gets in front of a microphone I could kick the hell out of him for some of the things that he says without ever even doing one second of investigating he's a hell of a nice very kind man but he is irresponsible in his reporting of what he gets on his fax machine I'm not all alone I do not feel sorry for them one bit they have had warning for many many years I can do nothing to stop the sheeple from getting hurt except what I am doing and I have probably done more than most who have ever lived to wake them up and steer them in the right direction because if I did that's all I would do somebody has to fight the battle you can sit and cry 24 hours a day if you want I'm fighting the battle don't ask me why I'm not crying I can't get out on the battlefield and cry if I cry I can't fight God bless you brother and keep it up and I'll be listening thank you thank you for your call oh boy sometimes I think I'm beating my head against the wall folks I mean it's just I don't know good evening you're on the air good evening Bill I'm Gary I sent you something called One God One State kind of pointing out that you know throughout the world we had liberty especially in northern Europe Gary can I interrupt you for just a second you need to put your mouth in front of your phone and talk a whole lot louder you have a very soft low voice okay my apologies sir that's much better okay pointing out that we had liberty from a village level decentralized do your own thing as long as it didn't hurt somebody else kind of liberty bear arms real money real barter kind of liberty prior to the advent of Semitic monotheism and it spread throughout our world meaning Semitic monotheism well sir I mean that most of your callers and most folks I meet in the constitutionalist or patriot movement unfortunately try to filter every blasted thing through the bible not realizing that it was a confluence of plotters at the Nicene council who left out as much stuff as they put in I've told them that on many episodes of this broadcast and they just don't seem to want to listen I've got some of your tapes on it and they're excellent and they don't want to deal with those paradoxes they're looking for really simple answers and the fact is the universe is not in my opinion and I'll just throw it out here for what it's worth ruled by one dictator who's got everything right it's ruled by a whole bunch of different forces you can call the other guy's god a devil or a demon or lucifer or whatever you like like some of your colors in terms I believe what you've got sincerely is where you have a confluence of forces from the collective subconscious of man projected not just that's the luciferian philosophy that's the belief of the mysteries that is the ancient paganism religion from previous times as well and if you get enough people thinking that a cabbage head is divine probably sooner or later it will come to life well I think that's probably happened several times they built a plane out of straw on a pacific island and worshipped it based upon yeah and I think that that's what happens when you have a virgin weeping in Italy and a sweeping blood on this broadcast we believe in freedom for other people to worship whatever god or author that they want we truly believe in freedom which means that which means that if you talk on this broadcast you must be respectful of other people's religions also I would not insult yours and I hope that you would not insult my listeners religions I think what we have sir is an innate mindset which has brought us to where we are today you've had it basically this way for a thousand years in the western world what we have happening today is a direct result in my opinion of Semitic monotheism and its emphasis upon sin and redemption from sin through suffering and the idea that man is so low that he has to be redeemed through a godly sacrifice this whole concept basically trashes our opinion of ourselves this whole construct also of constantly being in sin is equivalent on a spiritual level to the idea of constantly being in debt that's why we based our economies on debt rather than productivity and reinvesting surpluses real well you're making a big mistake there if you believe that Christians believe that they're constantly in sin they do not you're echoing a tenant of the headquarters in in of the Catholic Church in Rome but most Christians who believe that they have been saved through their belief in Jesus Christ are no longer in sin they do not live their lives in that manner well they go to a very complex rule book not if they believe well everything in those everything in those in those times was was simple the way they live the way they got their food their their the way that they thought their mathematical problems were all very simple it is it is only logical that their religion reflected this simplicity they lived very close to nature and so their religion usually reflected their relationship with nature it was it was based upon nature and the observation of natural law and putting man to live according to natural law so it didn't try to manipulate people through sin and guilt and a promised paradise or redemption or that sort of thing the only religion that I know that does that is the Catholic religion well I would suggest you sir that you find that replicated in practice not your version but in practice and most of the Protestants certainly right here in the Bible belt they use the same kind of psychological metaprogramming well if they do they certainly were not listening to Jesus Christ they did not read what he said they're listening to somebody in a pulpit who's lying to them well which version Jesus Christ said whosoever believeth in me shall have everlasting life this is very simply talking about what is quoted that Jesus is supposed to have said in the New Testament of the King James version of the Bible which is the standard text for every Christian church in this country advised by what by people from the Illuminati it was a very select committee now wait a minute whoa whoa whoa you said that these people believe that they're living in sin all the time in this stuff and I'm telling you that's not what Jesus said and now you say it was created by the Illuminati you are taking and twisting the conversation into an area that has nothing to do with what I said well I understand where you're leading with that I'm simply saying that I wasn't leading anywhere I was just telling you that if someone is a true Christian and reads the words of Jesus Christ they do not and cannot believe that they are living in perpetual sin that's all I said I'm saying that it's been very carefully selected we don't even know what words there were or even if there was such a just like Paul Bunyan is not a historical figure if enough people talk about it enough repeated it enough and carefully filtered out enough versions we might actually arrive at some point a thousand years from now in a worldwide belief in Paul Bunyan and that's exactly what religion is all about you see whoever believes in wood wood nymphs and believes in tree gods is doing the same thing that someone else does when they bow down to a bronze statue of Buddha and worships that statue which I know they don't really do but that's the interpretation a lot of people give it they're just bowing in respect to the memory of the man who gave them the way of life that they follow but all religion listen to me you're talking about religion as if it's supposed to be based on fact and it is not religion is called religion because it is based simply upon an article of faith that people believe something that cannot be proven to be true and cannot be proven to be false in most instances you believe in liberty I've read some of your works I know where you're at on that like your pale horse dog and clearly you're upset by people who don't believe in it and that's the bottom don't believe don't believe in what what don't upset by people who don't believe in what in liberty you're damn right I did right and what I see to the constitutionalist and libertarian and especially the constitutionalist circles the patriot circles is the kind of forced state religion I guarantee you if there were and I hope there isn't some sort of bloody revolution here because I think everybody's going to lose if there were but if there were tomorrow between the forces of the so-called new world order the George Bush types and so on and their UN troops and the guys out on the mountaintops and camouflage and the militias it wouldn't matter as far as liberty goes which side want there won't be any liberty either way the folks I know around here that are in the militias basically would put a gun up to my children's head and say okay pray or you don't eat pray or die I would say in answer to your statement that you don't know those people you are reflecting what you have seen on your television set people that I've met sir personally and have known around here people you meet at gun shows people you meet and and and you're taking you're taking your experience with one or two or three people and you're saying all of these people are that way and I'm telling you that you're wrong anyone who believes in the constitution for the United States who says that they are a constitutionist cannot believe in a theocratic religious government read the website yellowstone I don't need to read the websites there are a lot of intentional dead end people who call themselves patriots who are not people who call themselves constitutionists who are not who are serving the hegelian dialectic to help this whole process come about and that's what I'm trying to warn you all against and you fall right into it and make a statement like that which is the same thing as saying all Jews are out to kill all Christians and it's a lie I never said categorically you did you said all these militia and constitutionists and all of these patriots are all the same you said it right here on this broadcast the guys that met around here don't have a program for liberty they just have a program for their own viewpoint as opposed to Washington's I don't see their reliance on liberty or the constitution you may know some people who are like that I know some people who are like that whenever I see them I call them on it I tell them you're not a constitutionist and you don't believe in liberty you believe in a theocratic government you believe in the dark ages where if somebody doesn't believe like you do you're going to burn them at the stake and I'm telling you if you start that crap you'll have to fight me too why don't you tell them that sir I've tried to do that and I appreciate the point you're making that's exactly what I'm trying to say there seems to be this tone creeping into a lot of the websites I checked and a lot of the people I hear were claiming to be constitutionalists you just made the distinction I was aiming at thank you you're welcome have a good one you too haven't you ever haven't you ever thought that maybe someone is doing this on purpose so that liberty and freedom doesn't have a chance I'm telling you that's exactly what's happening that's why that's why I've said on many occasions many occasions that most of the so-called patriot leaders are not patriots at all they're on the other side and if you follow them around long enough you'll follow them right to a masonic lodge good evening you're on the air yes sir it's good to hear your voice again sir thank you he's not bad he thinks he thinks the same thing that he's accusing all these other people of he has his own agenda and he thinks he's the only one that's right and his religion is the only religion that's right exactly he's dogmatic that's what I'm trying to I know that's what you were going to say I just I agree with you because I was raised in a Christian family and I understand the first caller to a degree I just believe there is a spirit out there where certain mankind goes this area but I understand the difference of fire so this guy though is totally either the second guy rather was he's practicing what he accused everybody else of doing right and that's scary yeah he's doing exactly what he accused them of doing to hear and he's just as scary as those people who he is afraid of and I've learned more freedom from you and it really flattened in faith but that it's totally correct and even difficult it is totally correct so I just want to thank you very much sir for being on the air I'm glad to hear you again and I wish you Godspeed well you're welcome and thank you thanks I don't know why people have such a hard time with freedom freedom is simply this ladies and gentlemen that you never do anything to hurt the person or property of any other human being that you allow them to be them that you allow them to worship whatever religion they want to worship you see if you deny them their freedom to do that then you have also denied yourself what you have said is whoever is the strongest and in power has the right to dictate what you're going to believe and that is not right we are born all of us every man and woman upon the face of this earth we are born with certain unalienable creator endowed rights governments are instituted amongst men to protect those rights read it it's in the declaration of independence if you want the right to be a Christian you must give someone else the right to be a Satan worshipper if he wants to God if you believe in God will deal with that person not you judge not lest ye be judged remember that most Christians aren't Christians they don't know the meaning of the word and you're all still dividing yourselves up to fight each other because you want to be free but you don't want to let anybody else be free and that's the real cause of all the problems in the world if everybody would understand and practice freedom there would be no problems in the world good evening you're on the air this is Carl from Pittsburgh Carl can you put your mouth in front of your phone and please talk loud this is Carl from Pittsburgh thank you I understand that George Washington and most of the founding fathers were Freemasons that's correct do you have any comment on that I've commented on it probably 5 million times I have done hours and hours and hours upon it their memberships what they belong to what their goal was why they founded this country and why they knew that someday we would give it all up in exchange for security from the state they put all these wonderful documents into law yeah hello yes yes they put these wonderful documents the declaration of independence yes to deliver rights yes put into law yes with safeguards yes yes yes yes yes yes do you have any comment on that I have already told you I've commented it 5 in fact I just commented the other night again well I wasn't listening apparently but I can't do every show the same every night there's got to be a point where I tell you that if you want to know if you want to hear it again after all the times I've commented on it purchase the tapes or put your nose in a book hello goodbye sorry I'm sorry I've got to do this but apparently you can't hear me and if you can't hear me we can't have a conversation good night thank you for calling 520-333-4578 I just explained the whole thing night before last wasn't it or not long ago good evening you're on the air okay let me tell my radio now okay sorry about that that's okay you got it before I hear the radio now yeah it's okay I'll make a comment about Y2K go ahead okay yeah I'm a computer programmer for a bank uh huh actually I've been involved in your 2000 testing for about a year as you're making code changes we just now started doing testing and um now before I got into this and doing it I was probably one of the doomsdayers but after getting into it you know hearing what you were saying tonight I can reiterate what you have been saying is that the perception that people have about that is what's going to really cause the problems because what I've ran into in doing the testing I have ran into trouble and we have warped all the data all the dates relative to the year 2000 and um you know we went like the last business day in December and went over to year 2000 and you know we ran into problems but what's happened is that we're able to quickly identify those problems and then solve it right yeah because see what it is the people that are writing the code well after you've got in there done changes and you know how it works you're real familiar with what's going on in there when you see a problem you're like oh I know where that's happening then you can fix it immediately so yeah there's going to be problems no doubt about it because there are so many things out there and people who write code understand it but you can't everything you're not going to see it at first but the problem will occur you're going to fix it pretty immediate pretty quick right yeah so you're right no doubt that you're right also too I just want to say one thing about the last couple nights I heard y'all talk about Waco is that well actually you were the one that actually probably opened my eyes I remember when that happened and how they were saying that they set the thing on fire and all that and I believe that but I heard you in my local area which is around Charlotte North Carolina I heard you on an FM station here in the morning talking about that talking about how I think WWCR got burned and you were telling the things that you knew I was sitting here going I've always been open minded and I was like wait a minute what's this guy saying so I started looking and then you probably know the rest of the story I've come all the way up to doing I'm a rebroadcaster now actually I'm rebroadcasting a show to speak excellent excellent excellent so that's all I'll let you know you were the one to open my eyes up and actually I'm a much happier person than that because I feel like I know a lot more I'm not in the dark yeah you're not going around with that funny feeling in your stomach you know something's terribly wrong but you don't know what it is now you at least have some idea right yeah because when I was younger I used to play in heavy metal bands and got a lot of ridicule for that I mean and got harassed by the police a lot when we'd play out in clubs and I'd always think why did the police harass me even when I was younger I studied a lot about Nazi Germany it was just something I was interested in and I was like wait a minute this doesn't seem right doesn't seem right and then after I heard from you on that show that day I started looking and looking and I was like we got problems big problems there's no reason for any police officer anywhere to harass anyone under any circumstances whatsoever unless you are engaged in the commission of a crime that's correct I don't know if you want to make a comment about this but was Ross Rose a little stunt is that okay is what okay making a comment about that yeah go ahead I opened up the broadcast making a comment about that if I talk about it you can talk about it okay first of all I think Ross Rose is a disciple of democracy okay remember when he first came out he was talking about setting up the big electronic vote sure he's a populist he's also a socialist the first thing he said after his first televised town hall meeting when he came out one of the reporters there stuck a microphone under him and asked him what he thought about the constitution he said the constitution was penned over 200 years ago by a bunch of doddering old men who didn't understand the complexities of the modern age we've got to change the system that's a direct quote exactly word for word but didn't he mention one time we need to change our government to a parliamentary system yes he's a socialist I'm telling you right now Ross Perot is not on our side and it should tell you something when he admits that he's a populist the populist party grew out of the attempts by the socialists to unionize farmers in Kansas back in the days of the early unionizing attempts in the agricultural area populism is socialism and that's going to make a lot of people at the spotlight mad but it's absolutely true and that's why I've been telling you don't read the spotlight unless you're going to read it in an open objective manner and not believe everything that they tell you yeah well it's not patriotic it's socialistic it's populist anything that's populist is socialist a lot of the enemy masquerades under this name patriot are constitutionists they are not they don't even know the meaning of the word yeah exactly populism also to do with the rest of the country is that he's doing this petition but bottom line is it doesn't matter what the people think the constitution defines why the president should be impeached and who is to do it what the people think it doesn't matter here that's part of the great democratization of america which will rush us straight into socialism and I think if congress sits back and lets the opinions of the people drive whether or not we're going to impeach him our democracy I mean our republic is almost gone already and when this happens it's the final nail in the coffin well it is almost gone I don't even know if there's any of it left to tell you the truth yeah and we may have just a small remnant but that will be the final nail in the coffin and despite they're going on what people think and I went through the constitution the other day I couldn't even find it maybe you can correct me because I'm sure you're more versed than I am but I couldn't even find in there where it said people even vote for the president to begin with the electors they don't but people don't vote for the president they vote for the electors yeah but I don't even see in there where the people are even supposed to vote for the elector well they don't have to yeah it has nothing to do with it that's why I've been telling people for years their perception of what happens is not reality at all if they just read the constitution they would be able to maybe figure it out if they understand English and didn't they base a lot of this on Plato what Plato thought the republic should be I mean he didn't feel that everyone should have a vote I mean we had representatives the majority of the people out there don't have common sense around the government that's why we point to it and we feel they're suited for that yeah and it should not be elected officials either oh really not by the people no who do the people elect Joe Blow who runs the used car lot what the hell does he know about running the government our founding fathers set up this country to be run by statesmen statesmen and they set it up so that the people could be elected to take turns to go to Washington and sit in congress for one or two sessions and come back and run their homes they never dreamed that there would be such a thing as a professional politician yeah they never even dreamed of that and there was not supposed to ever be senators elected by the people see these things are slowly changed gradually over the years to propel us into democracy which always falls into an oligarchy and then into socialism or dictatorship yeah if you notice a lot of people a lot of them some people notice this but like you know when the federal reserve was instituted around the same time the senators the competition was changed a lot of people to elect the senators instead of state legislatures I mean it all kind of fell in place yeah the two major and you'll notice that these numbers have occult significance the first major step to destroy the nation was made when the civil war began the second was in 1913 the third was 1933 yeah well Bill I'm going to get off here with someone else Carl but good talking to you and glad for you thank you okay man you have a good night glad for me what did I do I don't know why he's glad for me I haven't did I get a new car and don't know about it or something no 520-333 4578 is El Numilo good evening you're on the air hello Bill how you doing I'm feeling fine I just wanted to say I've listened to your show for quite a while probably back in the first year of your broadcast I'm calling from around New England Texas I know sometimes you feel you're banging your head against the wall oh whatever gave you that idea no I don't know I just want to tell you a little bit about my story you kind of I don't know catch on to your broadcast listening it made me you know study more I ended up going back to school and I became a teacher let me interrupt you for just a second I've got to change this tape I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you I 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