If you're talking about the fact that we are all, all of us, of all races and all religions who are Americans are losing our freedoms and we need to get our freedoms back, then I'm with you. If you're talking about just you need America the way it was 200 years ago and everybody who doesn't look like you and dress like you and live in the same house as you can't have that, then you're wrong. And it's not going to be that way. Well, I can even remember in my life when it wasn't like this. I mean, I'm only 35 years old and even in the 70s things made some sense to me. Even in the 70s at least things made some sense. You sound like you're lost. Things make sense to me everywhere except for the fact that we're losing our freedoms. See, I think people should be free to say and do and live and marry and have the hobby and travel and all of the things that they want to do as long as they never injure the person or property of any other human being. And I don't care what race or religion they are. Times are going to change. The world is always in a state of change. You're never going to find a place, a neighborhood, a block, a city, a state, or a country that's not going to change. That's the way of the world. The world does not stand still. Well, I can only imagine what it's going to be 20 years from now. It's probably not. We'll probably all be living in five foot of garbage. Don't let your imagination run away with you. The human race is pretty good overall and people might let problems get away with them here and there, but eventually they get around to solving those problems and taking care of them. Most people are not going to stand for living in five feet of garbage or even one inch of garbage. They'll take care of it. Trust me. Well, I just know that I hate the world that I'm in in 1998. I'm afraid of it and all I know what to do is when I'm full of hate and fear is to get my gun and go out there and fight whatever it is that causes me hate and fear. Well, I hope you don't do that. You know, if we all get together and you want to participate in a great restoration of constitutional Republican government so that we can all live free together in peace, I'll help you do that. But if you want to pick up a gun and go out and shoot somebody you never saw before in your life because you don't like the color of their skin, I'll shoot you if I see you trying it. You'll be the one I shoot. You understand that? All right. That's fair. That's fine. And just remember that I'm not the only one. Okay. Fine. I'm, you know, well, hell, it'll be a three-way fight. It'll be... No, no, it'll be about everybody that you can see shooting at you. That's what it'll be. Well, that may be the case and maybe I'd be better off dead. Well, I wish you wouldn't feel that way. I don't understand why you feel like the world is so bad. The world is a wonderful place. There are wonderful people out there. There are great people out there. There's great things to do. Instead of bawling yourself up and all this hatred and fear, why don't you find something good that you can do and some good people that you can do it with and make your mark on history and be remembered as a good man who did some good for somebody? Because I could... You know what I hear from you? What? I hear you're going to be on death row probably in another couple of months if you keep thinking the way you're thinking. You're going to go out and kill somebody and you're going to be on death row somewhere. Well, I've been a skinhead since 1980. That's not something to be proud of. You keep telling me that America was so great 200 years ago or 100 years ago. You don't even understand America if you're a skinhead and you're proud of that. A skinhead is a socialist. Nazis are socialists. Hitler was a socialist. Nazi means National Socialist German Workers' Party. The ultimate goal of socialism is communism. Did you ever read Karl Marx? Do you even have any idea of what you're a part of? If you want to be American, you can't be a part of that. America is for freedom. Well, then why did Hitler fight the communists if communism is socialism's ultimate goal? Because all of these people are like everybody else. They don't understand that. They didn't read Karl Marx either. The average person that falls in line behind some silly leader doesn't have the slightest clue what's going on. He just hears what sounds good to him. It was a war. It was a war between the socialists and the communists and the socialists won and Hitler socialized Germany. I never heard that before. I never heard that before. That's because you're listening to people who manipulate you like Dr. Pierce. He served his own agenda as his own private little stormtrooper. Why don't you try being a leader sometime instead of a blind, stupid follower? God, I hate to say this, but he kind of stops me. It's true. I never thought of it, but Nazi does stand for a National Socialist Party, and I... Then that doesn't make any sense. What have they been telling me for the last 20 years? You see, that's the whole purpose of this broadcast. You know, my heart goes out to you, because I know that you've been lied to and misled, and you're being manipulated and used by people who have an agenda to divide and conquer the world and bring the whole world under socialism. That's what the New World Order is all about. That's what I spend my time on this microphone trying to do, is wake people up to this, and get them to stop listening to everybody else. That's why I tell people, listen to everybody. Read everything. Believe absolutely nothing unless you can prove it. You do your research and understand what it is that's going on. And that includes me. It includes Dr. Pierce. It includes William Jefferson Clinton. It includes your preacher and your church. This is the age of deception. And if you're not careful, you will be used as some worm on somebody's hook to catch a big fish. Wow. That's... What you're looking for is respect, recognition, love, freedom, a place where you belong, and you're not going to find it where you're at. All you're going to find is heartache and misery and self-doubt, and people are never going to respect you or love you because of what you stand for. Well, I never belonged anywhere. I mean, I was a junkie until I got into the party. That's exactly who they go after to recruit. You know, they got me off the drugs. They got me to stop shooting up. They straighten me up and... You know? Yep. That's what they do. And they make you feel like you belong. And you think you do. And then they use you. There's no future there. There's not going to be another Third Reich or Fourth Reich. There's not going to be another period in history where somebody marches through countries murdering people. No great cleansing, huh? What? What do you need cleansing for? I mean, if you need cleansing, take a shower. I do. I do. Well, it's what we've been told for years. It was coming. You know, if we just stand strong and we just have faith that one day enough of us, you know, would wake up and all the Jews and the blacks would be removed from our society. That's... And then what... Let me ask you something. What kind of society do you think is going to be left after that happens? What do you think you're going to be a part of after that? A white European society. What kind of white European society? Have you ever really studied Hitler's Germany? Have you ever really talked to people who lived in Germany at that time? I've talked to a lot of them. It was a fearful time. And they weren't afraid of the Allies, the English and the Americans. They looked forward to them coming. They were afraid of their own people. They were scared to death. Hitler had their own children ratting them out. The Gestapo was everywhere. Nobody could trust anybody. It is the most terrible kind of life that you could possibly imagine. Afraid to even whisper something to your best friend for fear that the walls had ears or that your best friend might rat you out. That sounds more like communist Russia in the 50s. It's what socialism always is. Socialism is a lie. I don't know. All this... I've really never heard any of this before and you're somewhat... I'm not really sure what the word would be I guess blowing my mind sort of. Well, I don't want to blow your mind and I don't want to hurt you but I would like for you to start thinking for yourself and go out... I'm alright. I mean, I'm just... Well, apparently you're not because somebody has been thinking for you for a lot of years. You haven't really sat down and thought for yourself. Yeah, you're probably right about that. Like I said, I was just a street punk shooting dope in my arm and these skinheads found me and cleaned me up and got me together and... You know, I worked a few years when I was out in Montana with the Aryan Nations and then I came down here and... got with Dr. Pierce's people and... I just always thought I was doing what I should. what you should be doing is helping to build a better world where all people can live peacefully free together with responsibility under law not afraid the kind of world that Dr. Pierce wants to build is a world of fear and misery and murder and blood and people ratting you out every three minutes your own children turning against you that was Germany in the 1930s and 40s that's what Dr. Pierce wants I was always taught that it was an orderly society that back in those days no one walked around in fear so... Well then why didn't you go live in the Soviet Union when it was when it was there I mean that was an orderly society Well because I was told that... That what? That was that was communists I mean That's exactly Hitler was just a half a step from that I know He was socialist and read Lenin read Marx they'll tell you the ultimate goal of socialism is communism That's what I'm saying this whole thing is like all new thinking to me Well It's Like I said I'm kind of glad I made this phone Well I'm glad you made it if you're starting to see some light out there somewhere There's a lot of good people in this world Most people are good people that includes blacks that includes orientals that includes Hispanics that includes whites that includes Native Americans and in every single group there is a layer of what you might call pond scum including including in the white race and in fact if you want to know the truth about the white race most people who are on welfare are not blacks they're whites and if you don't believe that you can check the statistics yourself they're available for anybody who wants to find them What about the media in this country is it controlled by Jewish people? The media is controlled by corporations The media is owned by corporations anybody can own the media all you have to do is buy the stock If you want to own the media all of you guys get together and buy the stock and the media belongs to you You're white right? Yeah What was your life before they picked you up? Just shooting up getting in and fighting selling drugs Wow I thought you said the white race was somehow superior Sounds just like the black junkie Sounds just like the Hispanic junkie Sounds just like the Native American junkie You're white junkie You're all junkies Well the way they explained it to me is I had just been misled and You know better than that You weren't misled You were a junkie because you chose to shoot up with dope No black person No Jew was standing there talking you into it or shooting you up with it Now you're right You did it to yourself Jews didn't do it to you and the blacks didn't do it to you and you have to take your own personal responsibility and you should be able to spot these lies when they tell them to you It's so easy to buy these lies because you don't want to admit the truth to yourself You did it No I guess not So the next time you see a black junkie remember when you were a junkie take pity on the poor soul and help him out Don't go over and kick him and beat him up because that could have been you Only difference is he's a black junkie you were a white junkie and there ain't no superiority in a crack house Well they didn't even have a crack when I was using them Well whatever you were using nobody was superior to anybody when you're in a drunken drug induced coma lying on some filthy mattress in some burnout tenement somewhere or wherever the hell you did it That's pretty close to where they found me Yeah you see So what you should be doing is thanking God that somebody came along and helped you but you also have to understand they helped you for a purpose They couldn't go out and get a person who wasn't on drugs who can think and understands and knows what they're up to They had to come and get you Then they had to lie to you and manipulate you and twist your mind all around and fill you full of hate and set you up for death row somewhere because they got you pointed in a direction where they're going to have you killing somebody pretty soon or they fill you full of so much hate that you're just going to go off and do it of your own accord and I I pray I'm going to pray to God tonight really really hard that you don't do that I'm afraid I may already have I've been in quite a few shall we say altercations between us and other people Why don't you set a new course for your life and decide not to do that anymore and find a way to help people instead of hurt them Well when I when I think of the last 17 years I got I got shot for those people man I got stabbed for them Yeah what did it accomplish Apparently not much I went to prison for those people You see what I mean You know you've been used I don't even have to tell you that you know it and you've suffered for it You could have had a completely different life and you still can and I'll bet you anything you don't get goosebumps when the swastika flag marches by I'll bet you you get goosebumps when the stars and stripes marches by Am I correct? Anymore I really don't react much to either of them Well I can understand how you might be that way after the life that you've been leading You might be totally desensitized to anything and that's an extremely dangerous and very cold and lonely place to find yourself I've had to be that way You let up emotions as a thing and it can kill you I've had to teach myself to be cold I've had to teach myself no matter what never cry never show any emotion even if I feel bad put it down don't don't ever show emotion that's been that's the same as being dead your emotions are what make you human that's what makes you alive it's what makes you worth knowing nobody wants to know a cold robotron I thought that's kind of how you had to be you had to in order to be able to fulfill the great tasks that we had before us you had to be able to just that's the way they'd love for you to be so that you won't question what they want you to do and that you'll march right along in goose step passion and commit the murders and the mayhem and the beatings and the chaos and all of the things that they know that they will be using to fracture society in this country so that socialism can take over the world that's what it's all about divide and conquer well I don't want socialism that's what you're going to get because that's what Nazi means and that's what these people are I thought I've been fighting against socialism all these years and communism not at all that's what they all want you to believe but it's not true you see they all say that Hitler was right wing and socialists are left wing and the socialists are the good guys yet if you read Mein Kampf and you read history and you look at exactly what Hitler did in Germany he was a socialist his party was the national socialist German workers party and he socialized Germany he wanted to socialize the world and his whole movement came out of the secret societies known as the tool society which is just another extension of mystery Babylon wow I have absolutely no response well no response is necessary I'm just glad I'm hearing a different kind of person right now well I I mean everything you're saying when I stop and think about it for a minute or two it makes sense well I hope that it does but I also don't want you to trust that I'm telling you the truth you go and check it out you'll find that it's true but the only way that you'll ever really know is if you go check it out yourself alright I will and don't go tell your friends what you're doing now because they'll talk you out of it and they'll try to shame you and make you feel like you're some kind of a traitor or something and you'll be right back caught trapped in that hole with the spider wow well I appreciate I appreciate you talking to me man well I appreciate your your ability to think you see you're not as far gone as they'd like you to be because evidently you can still reason yeah I originally called up I was just going to give that kid a hard time well that's why I came in here I heard exactly what you were doing and Doyle's new to radio he doesn't know how to handle that and so I came in to take that off of him because I know that he was feeling a little put on and he didn't know how to deal with it so I came in and I'm glad that I did well I'm going to look at this I'm going to go out and get a book of my comp I've never even read this thing wow how could you be a part of the movement and not have that's like somebody saying I'm a Christian and never read the Bible or saying I'm an American and never read the Constitution for the United States of America see how do you know what America was 100 or 200 years ago I'll bet you you have never read the Constitution that's the supreme law of the land this country was all about freedom not oppression not about killing people or kicking people or hurting people it's about freedom the founding fathers had a dream they had a dream that they would set the common man free for the first time in history and nobody in the history of this world had ever been free until this country was created and by setting them free they would topple the kings and queens from off their thrones and would create a new world order they even called this the new world they were escaping from the old world the problem is is that since that time this whole thing has been taken over by socialists and communists and they're going to put the human race right back into slavery again the founding fathers told us what we had to watch out for and what would happen if we were not eternally vigilant and if we gave up our freedoms for some promise of some mystical security and and and safety from from the government they knew that if we did that we would lose our freedoms and the new world order wouldn't be what they had envisioned at all it would be what dr. pierce envisioned maybe a stupid question but there's really no committee of three hundred there's really no little cobble up couple of Jewish people somewhere that make all these decisions like I was told there are a whole bunch of groups that meet and work toward world socialism the goal of socialism and communism has always been to rule the world they do it by infiltrating groups taking over the key positions in the group and then working through consensus and personal influence the wealthy socialists work through their influence through their wealth it's not one group the Vatican is working toward world government international Zionism which is not Jews most Zionists are Christians in case you didn't know it they want world government Freemasonry wants world government the communist international wants world government the council on foreign relations wants world government it's a whole bunch of groups all of them propelled by a hidden religion which very simply is secular humanism and what they ultimately want to do is just completely completely wipe out Christians Jews people who belong to the Islamic religion in fact they want to destroy all religions save theirs the worship of the human I don't want that well that's what they were didn't you ever study the Volk religion of Germany had nothing to do with God they weren't Christians no no this was a religion that elevated the worship of the race man it's the same thing that's what the Freemasons want to do perfect the race and then lead the inferior races in their evolutionary development listen to me man it's all bullshit all of it God I feel like an idiot let me tell you something every one of us at some point in our life are idiots I was an idiot for a good portion of my life until I started thinking and woke the hell up and I'm so thankful that I did Monday through Thursday nights we're not on Friday Saturday or Sunday night I don't have to start listening to you I've never heard any even the old patriot stuff I used to listen to is different than this well that's because a lot of people don't understand what patriotism is they all have agendas that divide and the more they divide the more easily we are conquered Americans only have one interest it's not race it's not religion it's freedom that's what Americanism is anybody who is not promoting freedom is promoting divisiveness if they're promoting divisiveness they are making us easily conquered freedom is the key that's what we must work for those are the great principles and ideals laid down by our founding fathers that made this the greatest nation in the world and told the American people lost lost the definition the concept and the feeling for freedom now what did happen a few years ago why did all of a sudden all the patriot stuff just like disappear and why did they call off that march on Washington that Linda chick and all of that what did happen back then well you'll have to ask her because when I first called up if you remember what I said is I was all ready to go out there and get into it and all of a sudden it's like sorry we're not going to go and I'm like what I'm ready to go I know yeah but you see for us to succeed we cannot get in a long line with guns and march toward Washington we don't have aircraft and we don't have tanks and I guarantee you that the upper levels of the military of the United States armed forces have sold out to the new world order they have betrayed their oaths to protect and defend the constitution for the United States of America and they would bomb us and run over us with tanks and strafe us and kill us and we'd never even get to Washington D.C. that's the truth of the matter our own soldiers that's another thing I was lied to they always told me that the army is just waiting for us to make our move oh really have you ever gone to an army base and asked the commanding officer if that's true I was just told that there were hundreds of white people in the military just waiting there are patriots in the military who will join us when we have the moral high ground and when we are right in our endeavor and when we are not participating in revolution or murder or chaos or rioting but are in the lawful the lawful work of restoration of constitutional republican republican government under the law that day will come and when that day comes there will be war in america unfortunately a lot of people like your dr. pierce will take advantage of that and he will send his little stormtroopers out to kill anybody who doesn't look like him instead of fight for the restoration of the republic and there will be blacks who because of hundreds of years of what they perceive as mistreatment even though it was this nation that set them free and hundreds of thousands of white young men in the civil war did it gave their lives they will go out and try to kill everybody who doesn't look like them and the jews because they've been persecuted throughout history they'll all huddle in their ghettos and since they never own any weapons they'll be easy victims for anybody who doesn't like them except for those who belong to the jewish defense league and subscribe to the truth which is that all power emanates from the barrel of a gun they will defend themselves and nobody will really know the outcome of that war because america has been so divided against itself that while there will be a great many of us fighting for the restoration of the republic there will be a great many people fighting just to wreak havoc and chaos and kill each other and so the outcome will be questionable and yes there will be patriots in the military who will come over to our side but nobody knows who they are and they won't until it happens and it will never happen if we do not have the moral high ground scary scary thoughts these are scary times but it's not as scary as the life you've been living I mean you weren't even fighting for a reason you started kill somebody or beat somebody up just because they were there and they had the wrong color of skin my god man well that's that's the way it was you know we'd be cruising along and you know we'd see somebody you know hey you know we'd pull over to the side of the road and come crashing out of the car all of us you know waving our sticks and our guns and didn't you feel a little silly I always used to think that it was kind of strange when it took six of us to beat up one nigger but well why don't you call try calling black people they're people okay black people yeah they're people they're people just like you they have feelings they have wants they have dreams they have families why would six strong young men get out of a car with guns and clubs to beat up a one poor unarmed helpless person I guess I never really thought about why everyone it was kind of like everyone else was coming out of the car so I came out too you know well how could you feel proud of yourself doing that I mean it wouldn't make me feel brave or proud I would feel disgusted with myself if I ever found myself in that kind of a position which I can guarantee would never happen well as I remember we all went back you know to this one guy's house and we were all like you know passing around a bottle and like yeah another blow struck for our side let me tell you what you did let me tell you what you did only cowards would go after a single person in a large group like that with sticks and clubs and guns go out in your car you know all of you let's see if you can get out one one just one with no guns no clubs no nothing and meet another man face to face by yourself and let's see how many of you go back and break out the bottle and celebrate what happened there's no glory in that and there's no superiority in that that's cowardice and you know it yeah and you wouldn't have done it if you were by yourself and neither would any of the other of those people done that they would not have done that if they had been by themselves unless of course they had a gun then they might walk up to somebody and just shoot them that's cowardice too listen my friend I hate to do this I wish we had more time but I've got to we've got to call this quits because we're out of time I'll call you some other time well I look forward to it and I hope you will really go and check things out and stop believing what these people are telling you I appreciate it man thank you thank you thank you very much for calling tonight bye goodbye wow Doyle you're going to have to take this microphone because I'm absolutely emotionally drained my hands are shaking and I hope that I have helped somebody in that thank you all righty all right poo okay just a little bit longer to go tonight I don't know if we should do another call or not yeah we've only got about three more minutes of time left on the air so we won't do any more call-ins now we're just about up so what I want to do is I had probably two or three calls today and then you know we heard a couple people have tuned in for the first time this evening the broadcast is Monday through Thursdays six to nine Pacific time nine to midnight eastern okay and it's on obviously if you're hearing this you know it's on 7.415 live it's WBCQ it's a planet oh okay and so tune in don't look forward to Friday night Monday through Thursday night live nine to midnight eastern six to nine Pacific okay I had two or three calls today a couple people called in tonight like I say just heard us just found it just read it something that's the schedule so we can clarify things because there was some misconceptions about the time and are we on Saturdays and whatnot so there you go okay Poo why don't we have some good music here to listen to Poo you've been a wonderful co-host where's Sarah at oh she's over there okay cool she can't just say meow meow meow and then appreciate it everybody it's been fun tonight it's been very eye opening I hope everybody's learned a lot Poo do you have fun yeah I hope you guys had fun too yeah so do I can't I hope everybody learned something this evening okay I'm gonna finish up with some music here thank you for listening to the hour of the time goodnight goodnight oh where have you been my blue eyed son oh where have you been my darling young one I've stumbled on side of twelve mystery mountains I've walked and I've crawled on six crooked highways I've stepped in the middle of seven sad forests I've been out in front of a dozen dead oceans I've been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard and it's hard it's hard it's hard it's hard it's hard rain it's gonna fall what did you hear my blue eyed son oh what did you hear my darling young one hear hear the sound of a thunder that roared out of water hear the roar of the waves that coot around the whole world hear the one hundred drummers whose hands were blazing hear the send out the whisper nobody listens hear the one person star heard many keep laughing heard the song of a bird who died in the gutter heard the sound of a county crowd in the alley and it's hard it's hard it's hard it's hard it's hard let each other fall you did you meet my two eyes go you Thank you. 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