DIANA Sikat hear coming to you again From examine, to see their doctor known because they are Baptist Thank you. Thank you. We had bugs all last week and we couldn't get rid of them. And it wasn't until Saturday, I believe, that we were able to do a whole hour without getting, you know, broken off the Internet. And we did it on Saturday and then we did it again yesterday for two or three hours. And we did it again today for two or three hours. So we decided that tonight's our debut live on the Internet. And I hope you're listening. For all of you who have problems listening on shortwave radio, you can listen anywhere in the entire world if you have a computer to the hour of the time. Just go to WilliamCooper.com and follow the directions. Tonight and tomorrow night is free. It won't cost you a penny. After that, you have to purchase credits and it will cost you to listen to the hour of the time. And that's the American way. I want to hear from you socialist puke-faced little people, I should say, that want to send us emails. I'll say, why are you charging for us to listen? Hey, bozo, it's so we can do it because it costs us a lot of money to do it. And the more of you that listen, the more money it costs. Folks, we have to live and we have to eat and we have to breathe and we have to do all of those things. So here's my advice to all of those of you who are always looking for everything to be free. Go to Cuba. Cuba. Castro needs sugarcane harvesters. And in return, he'll give you everything for free. Everything. And that's the truth. He really will. So get your little socialist Marxist butts down to Castro's Cuba and he'll take care of you. Tonight, because this is our debut night on the Internet Live, I'm going to run a lecture that was given by Ron Howell at our 1997 conference. It's intelligent. It's factual. It's fun. And you're just going to enjoy the hell out of it. It's one of the best lectures we've ever had at any of our conferences. I have to monitor the computer to make sure everything's working right, just in case a whole flood of people that are listening cause some kind of a software glitch. And Ken's going to be listening on the other end by the servers. And we hope nothing happens. But if it does, we hope we'll be able to take care of it. So if we drop off the Internet, don't go away. We'll get right back up as soon as possible. So without further ado, here's Ron Howell at our 1997 conference. I think you're just going to love this. And in light of the recent Fox broadcast exposing the Apollo moon landing hoax, you're going to love it even more. That was a lot of fun with Jeff on the radio. And I bet you that there was a lot of people out there who really enjoyed that. What you're going to hear now is going to be extremely interesting. You've heard me talk about the Apollo moon shots and the Apollo mission and the Apollo program and all that kind of stuff on many broadcasts. And you've seen all of the NASA footage of that and the special programming on TV of the Apollo program. And the next speaker has done a lot of research on this and put together the results of what he's discovered. And he's going to share that with us for the next two hours. He's also a good friend and a major contributor to our effort. This microphone up here is one that he gave us that we could travel with. It has incredible quality. Because we can't travel with the two other microphones that he gave us because they're so fragile and they were made back in the 20s and 30s. And they're the best microphones ever made. You can't duplicate it with solid state technology. And that's what makes the hour and time sound so great. So his name is Ron Howell. He's standing right here. And he's put together the results of his research in the Apollo program and the Apollo moon shots. And he's going to give you the results of that over the next two hours. I think you're going to find it extremely interesting. Regardless of what you may believe about what happened, you're going to find what he's going to tell you interesting. So pay attention. Take notes. And I don't know if he's going to take questions. But if he does, please hold your questions until the end of his presentation so that he can get all the way through it. And if you can poke holes in this, that's fine. So I happen to, I pretty much think I know what he's going to say. And I think I pretty much agree with him. But Mr. Ron Howell. Thank you very much. Well, with a nice introduction like that, I don't want to fall flat on my face. So let's get to it here. This outlines, my presentation is called, Dear National Fool America. Now, I have to tell you, you don't have to, you don't have to believe what I say. If I were to tell you that we didn't go to the moon, I wouldn't expect you to believe it. But you know that. You deal with intelligence every day. And you know you have to treat it as such. If it's evidence, you have to handle it for what it is. If you agree with it or not, that comes later. Even if I were to tell you that I went to the moon myself, you couldn't accept that. You'd have to look at it as second-hand information, wouldn't you? Okay, now, we are going to discuss facts, and we want to get to the truth, because I appreciate truth. Everything that deals with freedom, you know, has everything to do with truth. Now, let me see here. Let's go by my little outline. This is an experience I had. When I was in high school, I can remember the follow project was going on, because I was a senior. In 1969, I remember seeing the footage. And my feeling at the time, you know, I was a sheeple. I was young. I was young and impressionable. When I saw these moon astronauts, I knew, see, when you're in the vacuum of space, you know that death is right outside of you. Right outside of your suit is a pure, hard vacuum. When pilots are inside of an airplane, you know, they're in a pressurized cockpit, besides being in a pressure suit. So being outside of the capsule, being on the moon, I knew at that time that it was very dangerous. And my impression was that these men were very joyful. They were happy. They were jumping around. Right? And I thought, my thought was that these men were awfully brave, knowing that they may die at any minute, that they're going through, I mean, that they're entertaining these thoughts, and they figure, what the heck, we're going to live this up while we do it. I was thinking that, or it could be that it was fake. And I kind of, I thought it was just too dangerous to be acting that way. And, you know, I brought this up in school, and, you know, the teachers, the kids, you know, they put that down. So I let it go for a long time, but I always had it in the back of my mind. Then about the time when I was getting older, I knew there was trouble in the country. I acquired a short wave set. I instinctively knew that short wave would be what I'd want to look for. I mean, I'm one of the first to die. I thought, sure, I'll tell you the truth. You know, I thought I'd be hearing information from outside of the country. I never thought it'd be coming from within. And when I heard, you know, all these shows, I was like, ooh, knocked down. And then, you know, nine o'clock Pacific time, you know, that old siren came on, and boy, I knew that was something. So I really listened again. I know, I'm not used to this, so I've got to get used to it. I'm laughing at myself. It's not a problem. I'm just getting used to it here. So, listening to this show, I remember one episode where he was talking about the astronauts on the moon in one state of gravity. And seeing that show, it was like, hey, I was thinking this a long time ago, and here he's talking about it. I felt somewhat empowered that my thoughts weren't so off base. listening to his program, and shortly after that, maybe a year or two, he came out with this book, National Moon to America, by a man named René. I still don't know if that's his real name or his last name or what. I mean, I obtained his phone number before I was able to do this, but I haven't been able to talk with him yet. So, a lot of my material is going to be based on this, and I know a lot of you people out there have it already, because in my short acquaintance with you, many of you have it. But I don't plan to do a book report on this. When I obtained this book, it was so enlightening, it inspired me to hit the books myself, and see if I could back it up, see if I could poke holes in it, substantiate it. I was, you know, something that just made me really want to stay. So, that's what I've been doing. And, also, I've got this other publication, he, this book he published called The Last Skeptic of Science. The book meant to try to stop, and it's a kind of a collage of different papers that are associated with subjects like this and other things we'll be referring to. So, let me just look at my list here. I've got so many things to talk about. I had to write it and help one in together. I'm being just a little nervous. It's hard to read it. Okay. Okay. When I was doing research, you know, I went to the old popular science. Have, has anyone ever seen one of these? Or seen the popular science? Okay. Well, I've seen it, I've seen it a lot. In fact, I've seen it on TV shows. I remember one episode of Heart to Heart that was right there in the library where I was saying, hey, that's the one I've got. So, I, I checked it out and I found it, I found this better a sloppy because the second that my father bought me years ago was a worn pattern. When I was a kid, I, I read all, all these books. I was always interested in how things work. So, I saw this fat-ass sloppy and I bought it for $10. Brand new, steel and everything. So, if I can tell you here, okay, the, one of the, one of the things with the moon, I wanted to get some information on the moon because many people take the moon for granted. We have ideas about it, but, as you'll see, when I show you these demonstrations, you'll be, you'll be knocked out because it has nothing to do with what you think. Now, you can find a distance from the earth to the moon, of course, in these, I mean, in these, in these volumes. So, I just want to take a chance and see if anyone has an idea or how many people in general have an idea how far it is to the moon. Any, any thoughts? 229,000. Okay, well, if they ought to say that, these people are really up on their head. Well, okay, let's go to the next step. Do you know how they found out how far away it is? Yes. They used, well, amateur radio did it by radar the first time. Okay, years ago, before radio, how do you suppose they did it? They knew how far the moon was away, way back when they built the pyramid. Now, you think about that. How did they do it? Well, I'll show you. I wish I had a big blackboard here because it's a good crutch. I don't have to fool with things. But generally, the earth is over here and the moon and the moon here. Okay, well, how they determine how far away the moon is from the earth is they first, they know two locations on the earth, the distance, not the circumference, but the distance through, oh, that's real strong shock here. earth. Okay, the distance through the earth from this point to here, see, they figure that distance, and then to the moon here, you have a triangle. So if they know the distance from here to here and they measure these angles, they can determine the distance from here to there through the middle. Right, okay, and, of course, the reverse works, too. If you want to know the diameter of the moon, what you do is you know your distance, then you calculate points where the angle is, where the angle is, and that would tell, would, from this part of the earth, you would measure a triangle this way, and then, of course, you know the angle of the triangle on this side, and that tells you the diameter there. So is that clear? We understand right now. Okay, so, the diameter of the moon is 2,160 miles. The diameter of the earth is 7,927 miles. Okay, now those facts are in this book, and they're there for all of us to read. Okay, the question is, using these pieces here, now how far the softball is roughly the size of the moon, how far away in your mind's eye are we from this earth? Let me get it. I especially got this globe here for this demonstration. I like it because I can take it out of there. It was nice to have one here, but it stands to make it awkward. So, imagine now, we're out in space, here's your earth, and here's your moon. Now, I'm going to ask a couple of you out there, how far do you think it is? 25 times. Hey, we got a smarty here. Maybe someone else didn't hear it. I don't know. Hang on, but he said 25 times. 25 times what? How did 25 times the diameter of the earth? Because the earth is 2,000 miles and you said the earth is, you heard this is about 1,000 miles away from the moon. So, 2,000 to your 250,000 is roughly 145 times. Well, your idea of finding it is right, but I think it's wrong because what you do is you divide 7,927 into 239,000 which is the average because it's supposed to be an elliptical orbit. So, just taking an average, that goes 30 times. So, let me tell where you move. And you go out there and you hold that. Okay, do you see that? Now, there's a way that I can prove this. If I had a long pole that went to that baseball and I was strong enough to hold it and if the moon was in the vicinity, you hold that baseball up to that moon and it's going to be the same size as the moon. So, it shows that the scale is correct. Is that understood? Okay, now, this is a mind blower. Okay, now, this is a fact. If they really went to the moon, this is what they would have had to do. See, it's either one of two things. It's a great accomplishment because imagine that moon isn't stationary as a moving target. And you have your, I'm not telling you how far off this yet, but it's coming off this globe hitting a moving target and it has to hit that target at the right angle precisely to go around it. Because if you miss it, there's no second chance it's gone, right? Is that agreeable? Okay, you can bring that moon back. Okay, now, we know what they claim to have done. What are they doing today? We know about the shuttle project. We know about putting satellites in orbit and things like that. catching here. Okay, does anyone know how high the shuttle usually flies? I know you're sharp out there. What is it? Well, it's a little more than that. It's 300 miles. 300 miles, they say. we don't know. They say that. Okay, where do you suppose 300 miles off of this? This one takes you hard to think of it. Right. Less than a quarter of an inch off this globe. And you can find that out because if you divide 12 into 7,927, you get 660 miles to the inch, and they say they go up 300 miles, that's less than a half an inch, isn't it? So, here you go. That moon's out there. Here's the earth. And now we can prove this because once you know that, this is a standard. See, this is a reference. Now, the way I look at it is when you look at those pictures they claim that they did out on space, what you do is you put your eyes right close to that ball, and you match the horizon, the curvature of the earth to what they said. And if it matches, it's going to be at the scale of the night, it's way off. So, here's an example. I've seen many, many times where they're shooting off the Atlas rocket, and you see these beautiful pictures of the stages dropping off with fire around them, and you say, oh, man, look at that. Okay, well, when you see those pictures, you're seeing the earth from about a distance like this. You see that curvature of the earth like this with those stages dropping off. Okay, now, you look at that reference point from about here to here, you know, you're talking about this star that's further than the United States. That's over 3,000 miles. So, if they're dropping off first and second stages 3,000 miles off when the claim is under 100 miles, there's something along with the photographs. Am I right? There's nothing else there could be. This is the standard. one of the things that they did back in July 1st, 1957 to December 31st, 1958 was called the International Geophysical Year, the IGY. You've probably heard of that if you went to college or something. It's UN stuff. They gathered all the scientists together. together. They're drilling and poking and measuring everything that they could to establish the old doctrine or the old measurement that they thought was right. Okay. They checked out, you know, this geometry which we had before. They had devices that were called a Markowitz dual-rate, a Markowitz dual-rate moon camera and a Dijon astrolabe. And those were devices similar to Stextsense and things that they attached to telescopes to accurately measure these distances for the moon. And that was supposedly for the upcoming moon project. So, in a way, they really confirmed the old thing because really we know that man was smart all along. It wasn't his gradual evolution that they were cavemen or something. I mean, it's obvious the Egyptians. You know, they were very smart. Those pyramids, they say that they don't know how they made them even to this day, do they not? And I believe with my, what should I say, my way of exposing this is going to show that man made them, but not something from somewhere else. And we'll get into that later. Okay. But now I was reading this encyclopedia over the years. It's in volume one, by the way, on page 237. It's an illustration that I've never been able to find anywhere else, and I've been looking. Okay, this illustration here is like a graph or a scale that shows the different layers of the atmosphere. And it's interesting to note, in one book I was reading that the breathable air that we breathe to this size of globe is less than the thickness of the coating that they put on this. In the old days, it said varnish, but this is a newer one. It probably had some kind of poly-something on it, but the air that we breathe on this globe here is actually thinner than this coating. So, we're talking about these layers. So, if I may, what I'll do is I'll get this erased and I'll draw. If you're taking notes of something, you might want to do this, because it's leading up to a point that's very vital understanding this. If you take your paper long ways like this and you draw a line for a horizon, you know, I never knew until just a few months ago where that word came from, Horace rising, but on this horizon, I know now, let me explain it this way first. In the old books, see, you have to understand that all these things, airplanes, jets, rockets, it's all happened within 50, 60 years. So, this is really new stuff. When we talk about these layers, in the old books, there is only four layers. But just before they went to the moon here, this was published in 1970, so I'm sure that the type was set and by with like on committee and everything when they made these books, this information was not submitted in 1970, but obviously before they went to the moon, it exposes other layers that they define, and that's the ones I'm going to show you tonight. If you have your paper ready, put this line here. on the very first layer, they call that the troposphere. So, we'll put that on right here. Now, the troposphere, we could define that, well, I could more or less tell you, or I could read it from the book. Blackboard. Oh, thank you. Well, this is a real honor and a privilege. And I'm going to sign, and he's helping me tonight. Thank you, Bill. Okay, the troposphere is defined as from zero to seven miles high. So, from this area here to here, this is the zone we're talking about. Now, I'll just read a little bit from the book, because, you know, I could explain it better get it right from here. The troposphere zero to seven miles up. The troposphere is the air, which all human beings usually have intimate contact, since it is the very stuff we breathe, and is also the seat of weather and climate. The troposphere, the densest part of the atmosphere, the air pressure drops at increasing altitude, and we have already pointed this out, that there is more water vapor and carbon dioxide in the troposphere than any other layer. And it goes on and on, but basically what it's saying is that the air that we breathe is in this layer here. in the next layer that we're concerned with, maybe, I know you, there's a lot of smart people out here, but what do you suppose it is? Do you know what it's called, anybody? I heard one. Strategy are correct. Okay, I'll define that one now as being 7 to 29 miles. Is that very alarming? Does that mean it's rushways? No, what do I mean from 7 to 29 miles? 7 miles high to 29? Right. It starts at 7 miles high and then it goes to 29 miles. You know, here's something I couldn't understand. They hear in the book, they say there's no fine line between the layers. So don't ask me why they call it 29 miles when it could easily be 30. I'm just telling you what it says here and I don't know what their reasoning is but they say it can vary a couple miles. There's no hard line if the word crosses. But that's the definition from the textbook that we have. Let me go now to the stratosphere what this consists of. The stratosphere is less dense than the underlying troposphere. it contains much the same gases except there is less water vapor. The altitude of 15 miles, much ozone is concentrated. Because we know the story about the ozone very well by listening to the hour of time. it absorbs monthly ultraviolet radiation from the sun and thus is heated from a low of minus 60 Celsius at 7 miles. The stratosphere temperature rises slowly up to the base of the underlying methosphere at about 29 miles. The temperature of the stratosphere increases in the summer. Well, I think of something else but I want to see. Well, it's a lot of reading but the point I want to make is that in the stratosphere the temperature drops. From here the higher up you go it gets colder. And isn't this what we understand because when we look at the old World War II movies you can see the V-17 flying high they're wearing those neat leather jackets I like, you know, and they're left there in the cold, right? Well, that's how it was. But I'm afraid that gives people the illusion that the higher up you go it keeps getting cold. Does anyone in here that has read their National Moon America book know what I'm coming to or understand what I'm getting at? There's a hand back there. That's a good point. That's going to come later. But what I mean for right now is right, there we go. Okay. Is that doing okay? Hold on, okay. Okay, the next layer is the methosphere. 29 miles it starts to 48 miles high. So that's your third layer. Now let's get to up the methosphere how they define that. 29 to what? 48 to 28 Yeah, well here it's 49 but then close or not. Oh no, you're right, 48. Maybe it's because of 11 there that's what I think. Okay. Okay. You already told us it could be right. Okay, the composition of the methosphere is not unlike that of stratosphere. The gases are less dense of course. Carbon dioxide and water vapor are of a little importance. The methosphere has a layer of ionized or electrified air, the so-called D layer extending 30 to 50 miles above the earth. It is caused by the action of solar ultraviolet on the air molecule that is charged with electrons. Ozone also occurs in the methosphere where it is formed by the action of solar ultraviolet and x-rays on oxygen. The temperature from the low of 60 Celsius such as 7 miles in a stratosphere rises to 0 centigrade and altitude of 30 miles. Then it drops to about minus 90 at about 50 miles above the earth instead of the earth. So you see in the methosphere it's starting to vary. Now like I said before in the older books they were identifying that layer as being called only the ionosphere. If you understand anything about it if the ionosphere is anywhere from the top of the stratosphere all the way up to a different degree. Depending on what frequency you know depending on what frequency you're transmitting at they can determine how high or at what density level it bounced back or ricocheted off. And that changes through the years. Through the year depending on weather temperature. You know that's why when we try to listen to the little and short waves sometimes it sounds great and other times you can't get it. And that's why. Now here they also define these other layers of the ionosphere. The D layer, E layer, F1 layer, F2 layers. So you know they have it pretty well figured out at what frequency you know our hops the best. Okay now we're getting to the one that's really important. These lights here makes it hard to read. Okay maybe I should put it on this board first. The... The... Okay. What do you suppose the name of it is? It's totally... Totally about what we're getting at. It's... Pardon me? No. That was the first one. That was the ionosphere. Well, remember that... Maybe I should clarify. That... The ionosphere was the old definition. As they were getting more knowledge about radio and... Radar and whatnot. They defined the different layers. And this layer, the name... No. We'll get to that one. Thermosphere. The thermosphere. You got it. He knows what's happening here. Okay. When I saw that, the first thing that came to my mind... Thermosphere. What are we talking about? I thought it was getting colder. And usually when they say thermal... They're not referring to the cold part of heat. They're referring to... To... To rise in temperature. So I really... I knew I was investigating... I was on the right track here. All right. The next one... Which is the thermosphere... Is defined... As being from 48 miles high... Starting to... 250 miles... Here. Okay. Wait till you hear this definition. There's no way they could... They could teach this today. There is a wide range... Of temperature in the thermosphere. From a low of about... Minus 90 centigrade... At 50 miles altitude... The temperature rises... To several thousand degrees... At 300 miles and higher... Into the exosphere. Let me just say that one more time. If the temperature... Raises to several thousand degrees... Okay. How much is several thousand? They didn't say... What it is. Yeah. Right. I think of several... Is at least more than two. And I think it could be... As high as four or five. Couldn't it? I mean we're talking about several. So that's what it says here. And... Now I'll be finished. If it's not through. And then into the atmosphere. A great deal of this intense heat... If not all of it... Is due to the fierce solar energy... And other kinds of radiation... Bombarding the atmosphere... At those immense heights. The air is too thin here... To offer much resistance... And there are no clouds... To shield it from the constant onslaught. So... There it is. Right there. What... What are they saying? Now... It's interesting to know... It's just a coincidence... That in the same volume... Here in the batch... They're talking about... The Bessemer... Steel prop. Now... If you read what that is... It's a blast furnace... Of only 2,000 degrees... And 300 miles an hour... Can take iron ore... And melt it in steel. So here... There's the same definition... Found in this book... How is it that the Apollo Space Capsule... Transversed these layers... And came back... In... One piece... Without them being a molten... Piece of lead or something. What the hell... They're on a heat shield... And the first one... I thought of the broadcast... Was that... When I said... It couldn't possibly... Even go through... This radiation... Of space... If it... It can't... If it can... It doesn't matter... You know... It doesn't matter... So no... That's over... Getting... I think you're going to... Sugar... No... No... No... No... No... No... No... Okay... Let's see... I think... So this is just... The beginning... Right... Very fun... I can call... Yeah... Okay... Okay... Now... I think it was mentioned... What... How... How can I... What is... Okay... Temperature... Is what? What is temperature? Temperature... Is the attribute... And... What is... What is... Well... What is... What does temperature... Have to be associated with? It has to be associated with matter... Molecule... Molecule... It has to be... Water... Okay... If you have matter... It doesn't matter what it is... Solid... Liquid... Or gas... You have molecules... And heat is... The acceleration of those molecules... When it's cold... It's going slow... Okay... So... What... Knowing that... What do you think the definition... I mean... The temperature... Of... Of space is... See... Because when they went there... When they were on the moon... Supposingly... They were sitting on the moon... They said they were sleeping... But they couldn't sleep... Because it was too cold... That was... That's just something... So... Knowing what you know... Of what heat is... Or... Of the temperature is... And knowing what space is... What is... The temperature... Space... Do you understand what I'm... Trying to say? That's about what... The shadow... The sun... Right... Space wouldn't have a temperature... Right... Because space... Is a vacuum... And it's a lack of matter... Right... And we can prove that... The thermos bottle... There's one right there... How do they make a thermos bottle? There's really two bottles in one... They evacuate the air in between... They put either hot or cold liquid inside... And... Not having... The matter to... Trans through... Or... I should say... Penetrate... But there's... There's... I should have mentioned... There are three ways of conducting heat... There's... There's... I mean... Convection... Conduction... And radiation... So... How to make a thermos bottle... To prevent radiation... They make it a mirror... That's... And shiny... So when the heat goes out... It tends to reflect it back in... And the conduction... And the convection is out... Because there's no way for that to happen... Through the thermos bottle... So what I'm trying to get at... Is... Space itself doesn't have a temperature... But anything that's in space... Will have a temperature... Okay... What they claim... What they had to do... Is because of the... The heat and the cold... When the Apollo craft... Was heading out to that... Moon out there... That it had to do that... Dutch roll... They called it... Okay... And their logic... To us... Was... That... Well... It's hot on this side... It's rolling over into the cold... To cool off... To go back into the hot again... See... So... They want us to believe... That's what they did... And think of the navigation problems... They would have with this... Because... You know... They had primitive computers... Back in those days... And to... Go somewhere... For... For a destination... And to compensate for that role... All the time... Well... We know it's... It was never necessary... Because of the situation... With... The heat... Well... What really happened... Is like it was brought out... In the National Moon America book... When they use the illustration... You've got a hot dog... On the barbecue... It's in the heat... It doesn't matter how fast... You turn it... It's not going to cook it... All the way through... You know... It's a good book... I've read it 12 times... I've read it... I've read it... I've read it... I've read it... I've read it... I've read it... I've read it... I've read it... I've read it... I've read it... This follow-up... This follow-up one here... Well... I think it came first... Really... The last skeptic assignment... If you have any inclination... To these... You know... These thoughts... Like this... It's a good read... Because it... It crashes... Every... Every major theory... And I remember... A theory is not a fact... It's supposed to be an idea... Based on facts... So that gives you latitude... That maybe that theory... From that conclusion... Isn't the right conclusion... Because... There's other... Other ways... You can handle... Or interpret these facts... To come to a different conclusion... Right? So... One... I heard it... On the hour of the time... That Bill mentioned that soon... And I thought he might have got the idea... From this book... Because the Einstein... Simple and the complex theory... Of relativity... You know... It could fall any day... Based on some of these ideas... And... So it's... It's... It's just very good... Very good... And I better stick to this outline... Or I'll get too far off here... Which book were you talking about? Oh... I was talking about the... The last skeptic of science... That's... The book... Mensa tried to stop... I've never read it... Okay... Well what it is... Is... I believe... He used to... Belong to Mensa... And because of the... The heat... And the controversy over this book... That... He's no longer a member... Yeah... I heard that story... They kicked him out... Because of that book... Oh... Was there a hand back there? I remember the mention... That gosh rolled... That maneuver... He went out... The... The abortion... The radiation... The radiation... Could you demonstrate... That's where the... Art figure... I had... Oh... Okay... Well that's... That's easy... And that brings to mind... Another point... Okay... Well I'll use that cup... Of the space cup... Yeah... That kind of looks like... One story... Right? Okay... Okay... Well the jet's role... Was supposed to be... That it turned... On its axis... Like this... Like if that light was the sun... And it's going to its destination... That it turned like... It turned like this... Supposingly... So that this side... Would get heated... From the sun... And it would roll over... Into the cold of space... To dissipate the heat off... And roll back into the heat... And that was the idea... Straight away from the cold... Right... Okay... Now here's an interesting fact... About this... Is that when... Something like this... Is in orbit... You know... When you watch the space shows... On TV... They always show... You know... The... I'll get my earth here... And I go... And the spaceship's... Going around like this... And it's always going... It's always heading nose first... Around the earth... Right... Well... That would be true... If the capsule... Is powered... Or being pushed... To go... It's being pushed... To go around the earth... But in reality... It's orbiting the earth... And... There's nothing... Pushing it... So instead of it going nose first... It would... It would go this way... And the nose would still be aimed... The same way it was going... And then it would come back around this way... Backwards... And then go around like this... Or it would be at the whim of whatever... Or whatever... I mean... Force when I happen to take it... There's no... How many of you take it to the inertia? Right... It's... See... So... When... Right... See... That blows a lot of things away... Because... See... They're talking about taking photographs... And... Different experiments... That they did... And it depended... On that... Idea of doing that... But it shouldn't have... I think that's the same... Reason why... You know... They see one side of the moon... In orbit... The two other companies... To finish that... Right... Well... I'm glad... Sorry... I'm... I'm glad you brought that up... Because... That happens to be a subject of... And it is something that is... Oh brother... Okay... Let me ask you... Okay... We have the earth... What is it... That... Okay... The earth... The earth... Is moving around... Around the sun... But what do you suppose... Or what do you think the common... Scientific idea is... That turns the earth like this... As it's going around... I'm not sure the direction at this moment... But it's turning one way... And it's... As it's going around... What do you suppose... The... The common... Idea is... I mean... Oh... Centriptical force... Well... Centriptical force... My... Centriptical force... Centriptical... Not centriptical... Oh... Centriptical... T-R-I-T-T- Okay... Are you... Referring from like... The initial... Big bang... They claim... And it's... No... Not that far back... Okay... Okay... Maybe I don't understand... What that is... Can you explain... Well... It's the force... It keeps it... Turning... Like that... Because... There's... There's two organs... Going on... One of it... The organs... Around the sun... And there's another organ... That's going around this way... Exactly... On the axis... What's causing that though? Right... Not me... Okay... Well... This is what they claim... Or what they believe it is... They believe... After the initial... Big bang... That... Not that I... I agree with this... But... You know... That's what they're claiming... The initial big bang... The centrifugal force... When it's formed the planet... Over all these years... That that initial... Motion... Is the same motion... That's turning the earth... Now... That's what they... That's what they claim... But there's... There's discrepancies in that... Because... The invention of the atomic clock... That they know... That sometimes... It slows down... And then speeds up... So... What would account for the speeding up? Because... See... Over the millions of years... You would think... It actually goes... Slower... Slower... Slower... Right? But... It's staying... At the same speed... And sometimes... Going faster... There's an attraction... It feels like... You know... It's going... It's going... It's going... It's going to be... It's going to be... This is... Okay... The scientists acknowledge... That there's interaction... Between the oceans... And the atmosphere... Okay... We're talking about the atmosphere... Okay... If they acknowledge an interaction... The interaction that they believe... Is that the earth... Is turning... Causing the seas... To turn... And also causing the atmosphere to turn... But... If you... Look at it through... Another... Way... Or the opposite way of that... Is that... We know of the immense... Radiation in space... That this constant bombardment... Of radiation... On the atmosphere... Is causing the atmosphere to turn... Causing the oceans to turn... And that turns the earth... Not the other way around... And... And to prove this theory... Because it's just a theory... Is that... Moons... That don't have any substantial atmosphere... They don't rotate... They don't rotate... See... So... There's some credibility to this... And it makes more sense... Because they can't explain the... The speeding up... Okay... Now... It gets to this thought... Okay... Now... Suppose that this boat... Was the sun... Okay... The earth... Would be about the size of a pea... Compared to this... How far away would that pea be... From that sun? Somewhere down the road... Now... You got it... To be... Exactly where the toilets are... About 215 feet... And it has like the radius... Oh... We have the band back in here... That... That... That... That... That heat... You were talking about... That's different... That heat... Because the earth... Going around... The different portions of the year... Different parts... The other... The axis... The other... The axis... Is different... The heat... That will generate that force... Well... That's another exam... I think I said... That is off axis a little... And you know... All these things... That all... The heat... And all these things... Now... We have to take... The heat... And have to go through... The most of the... Teeth... That thing... That... Different... The heat... To be... The heat... The heat... The heat... Right... But you do see... The logic... Where it can work one way... It can work the other way... And it's more reasonable... It's working the unconventional way... Because of the... The moon's not turning... And that also explains... Why it can speed up... To slow down... Okay... Okay... All right... During this... IGY year... The International Geophysical Year... That... There was a team of scientists... Under the direction of... James A. Van Allen... They were the American... Physicists... At the University of Iowa... Now... What they discovered... Is... With the... Thing of... This... Well... Maybe we can do... Bill... Thank you... Thank you... Thank you... Thank you... Do you need to... Tell me... Not one university... That's come up with this... They all know... Oh... Do they? They're in on the front... No... No... They're in on their job... And their government grants... Which they lose... Which they don't... Well... Thanks for listening folks... On our inaugural... 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