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There were telephone calls that were made back and forth. The secretary made one to the governor. The governor says it's a fortunate thing for us that the General Assembly is still in session, so maybe I can call them back together, and we can change it if they want to conform with the wishes of Congress. Otherwise, it will have to be rejected. You see, at that point in time, the legislators for the various states only met once every four years. Once every four years. Not like today, a profession like they have, and meet once every four split seconds to go ahead and enact some new crazy law for us to be blinded by. They go on to also say that the other 33 resolutions all contain errors either of punctuation, capitalization, or wording. Remember the date, February the 15th of 1913. It says, Minnesota, it is to be remembered, did not transmit to the Department of Copy of the resolution passed by the state. I found that extremely interesting. When I went to Minnesota, I found my answer. And I also found my answer in the 16-page memorandum that any one of you can go to the National Archives and get a copy of. It says on page 16 that the Department of the Department of the Constitution passed by the state of Minnesota, But the Secretary of the State, the Secretary of the United States, that the amendment has been adopted. The secretary of the governor, I beg your pardon, can not happen, will not happen. The secretary of the governor cannot sign a document like this. Absolutely cannot. Has not that power to do so. And it's a good thing for us that they do not have the power to do so. There are 11 states, ladies and gentlemen, that fail to vote. Fail to vote on the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution. It is still tabled. It's on the table today. There was a seven-year cap on the 16th Amendment. So I give a hand what they do today. They can't vote on it. It makes no difference. Congress likes to give us big arguments. Well, 16th Amendment was brought before the Supreme Court of the United States, and the argument was lost. Not this argument. Not the fraudulent act of Philandra Chase Knox has never, has never been before a jury or before a full panel of the appellate court or with all the 17,000 documents that I possess. The two books that I authored, Volume 1 and 2, has never been brought into district court. Ever. You know the reason why? They've got the jury to deal with. And you, ladies and gentlemen, in this room and in this country are the jury. When will 9 ever be king greater than 22? Never. To prove a point, in the Chicago Tribune on January the 10th of 1985, there was a young man that was arrested for selling PCP, angel dust. There's a law that says you can't do this. But the law must be enacted correctly. His lawyer was very, very sharp. Very shrewd. He went to the inception of the law like I did with the 16th Amendment to find out if the legislative body had enacted that law correctly. And what did he find? He found that an F was substituted for an E in the code, naming a revised section dealing with PCP. The young man flew like a bird. And so did his lawyer right out of the courtroom. They lost the case. I hope you can understand why they fight this 16th Amendment issue as hard as they do. There was a report written on April the 18th of 1980 by the Congressional Research Service. And the Congressional Research Service tells us here in Washington, D.C. that arguably two requirements seem to be legally indispensable in a valid ratification resolution. The first is that the resolution contained in full the exact language of every section of the proposed amendment as it appears in the enrolled joint resolution proposing the amendment. They knew it back in 1913 and they know it to this day. Let one of them in the Congress of the United States or all of them pass an amendment to the Constitution and let the states do what they did with the 16th Amendment. It'll go out the windows like that without a question of a doubt. When I was in Boston, I found more proof. Because, you see, when you're an investigator, when you've gone through court, when you've arrested people, when you've had to prove your case, you better be right or you're going to get sued. In the report in Boston, there was a question that was asked by the committee. Are we able to change it? And the answer came back by Senator Luce, no. We must either accept or reject it. This was in 1910. Again, Washington, D.C. How our laws are made. Extremely, extremely important. Because they must follow. The Congress of the United States must follow the laws as we must follow. If the 16th Amendment were adopted correctly, I would not be standing here before you today and telling you that I will not file a 1040 tax return and permit the federal government to make me a criminal. In the How Our Laws Are Made, It says, Each amendment must be inserted in precisely the proper place in the bill with the spelling and punctuation exactly the same as it was adopted by the House. They have got to. Otherwise, what will we have? Chaos. We'd have 48 different versions of any amendment that the United States government tried to have the legislators of the various states adopt. They must do it exactly, precisely, as wished by Congress. In the proclamation by Philander Chase Knox that was written on February 25th of 1913, he said that it appears, it appears, when you go in the federal court and you argue with a judge, hey judge, it appears that I'm right and you're wrong, find out how fast you'll go to jail. Or find out how fast you'll get fined. Or find out how fast that judge will do whatever is set in his mind to do to you. It cannot just appear. It must be exactly, precisely, as the Congress of the United States wished in any amendment. I wish I had the time to look up all of the amendments. I don't know what I would find. I'm rather afraid to do that. I told you that there were 11 states that failed to vote on the amendment. And in another, I had it put in, the back of volume one, ratification of the Constitution and amendments of the states, presented by Mr. Fetz, United States Government Printing Office. 1931. Ratification of the Constitution and amendments of the states, presented by Mr. Fetz, United States Government Printing Office, 1931. What they did was the Congress of the United States wanted to know how all of the amendments were adopted, each and every one. With the 16th Amendment, they listed the names in alphabetical orders, as far as the states are concerned. They listed the yays and nays and the percentage. And then they come up with a cute little word called past. And when I would talk to people about this, they would say, past. Bill, what are you arguing about? Past means they passed it. Look in your dictionary. Each and every one of you that's listening to me today. Past means no. Past means to go around. Past means to circumvent. Past means to pass it by. That's why there are 11 states that are still tabled to this day that have failed to vote. It takes three-fourths of the states to ratify any amendment. We're so far under that three-fourths, it is pathetic. That's why I can so boldly say what I do on television, on radio, before anyone that I speak to. How our laws are made, any one of you, any congressman, call your congressman, tell them, give me a copy of the book. You want to see it. You want to see the book on the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution in the National Argos. It's a very heavy bound book. It's beautifully bound. You cannot photocopy it. So what I had to do was to bring in a man that would go ahead and make it camera ready. He copied it with the camera. And then the Argos went ahead and they certified it and notarized it. All the pages in the book said, I want every page from the front to the back. I don't care if there's a little squiggly mark on the back. I want it. He says, Bill, do you understand what this is going to cost? I said, I didn't ask you about cost because at that point in time, cost was no object. And I got what I wanted from the National Archives in Washington. Today, I have heard it said, and I hope that I'm wrong, that you cannot get the documentation that I got because they will tell you they do not have a supplier to give you the information that you want, that I possess. I also have three sets of microfilm. I left no stone unturned in this 16th Amendment issue. It is the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution is by far, ladies and gentlemen, the worst thing that the Congress of this United States could continue to let go. And it takes people like people in the camera audience, people in this audience, all over the world, to call your congressman, to write them, to do anything that you have, and say, bring Bill Benson to court and prove him wrong, or stop taking money from my pocket. Stop taking money from my back pocket, from my wallet, my car, my house, and etc. that we, the people, will no longer stand for it. If I can stand up as one and win a large lawsuit from the state of Illinois with a lawyer that was fresh out of law school, give me the opportunity, Congress of the United States, the Justice Department of the United States, to prove those 17,000 documents wrong. The federal government in Chicago has had those 17,000 documents for 18 years. Federal Judge Paul Plunkett and United States First Assistant United States Attorney and Deputy United States Attorney Joan Bainbridge Stafford has also had a copy of those 17,000 documents that are certified and notarized. I had to make them. I could not send them out and have them done anywhere else because if that ribbon is broken, if the seal is broken, or any part of this front page is defaced, it is null and void. It is no good. You could not use it in court. That is my evidence, ladies and gentlemen, and I thank you one and all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you, Bill. Joe Bannister is believed to be the first Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division special agent ever to discover alleged wrongdoing in the administration of the federal income tax and then confront top officials in the Internal Revenue Service about those allegations and his belief that taxpayer rights were being violated. After confronting top Internal Revenue Service officials, his inquiries were summarily rebuffed and he was encouraged to resign. He received a note from his superior, Joe, take seven days off, clear your head. When you come back, if you still feel the same way, resign. Joe resigned on February 25, 1999. Mr. Bannister is a graduate of San Jose State University. He became a licensed, certified public accountant, senior tax accountant with one of the large accounting firms. In 1991, he left that profession of public accounting. In 1993, he accepted appointment to the U.S. Department of the Treasury, Internal Revenue Service, Criminal Investigation Division, as a special agent, a criminal investigator. In addition to his investigative duties as a sworn federal law enforcement officer, Mr. Bannister was the organized crime drug enforcement task force and asset forfeiture coordinator for the Internal Revenue Service, Central California District. He also assisted with firearms and defensive tactics training, as well as community outreach. My pleasure to introduce Joe Bannister. Thanks, everybody. Well, this is the same group that I spoke to yesterday, but somehow with these lights and cameras, it tends to make your heart flutter a little bit more. Bob's basically done a good job of explaining to you briefly where I came from and what I did before I worked for the IRS. But I will say that in 1991, when I became a CPA, I had this insatiable desire to get into law enforcement. It was a burning desire, a desire that I just could not get rid of as much as my wife would have liked me to. So in 1991, I applied to both the FBI and the IRS to become a special agent in either of those two agencies. The FBI, unfortunately, didn't work out because there was a hiring freeze that lasted a very long period of time, and I was not able to get hired by them. But in August of 1993, the IRS Criminal Investigation Division gave me a call and asked me if I'd be interested in working for them. IRS special agents investigate violations of the federal income tax and money laundering laws. And although I kind of had my heart set on being an FBI agent, I went ahead and interviewed for the physician. And actually, after my research, I found it to be, it sounded like a very exciting job. So after August, September, October, November, there was a long period where I had to go through a background investigation. They check you out quite thoroughly because you'll be holding a position of public trust and they want to make sure that you're worthy of holding that position. So finally, in November of 1993, I was sworn in as a special agent for the IRS Criminal Investigation Division. I spent the next three years in the IRS Criminal Investigation Division, or for short, CID, and I had the most satisfying career to date. I really enjoyed the work that I did. What I thought was interesting is that up until that point, I would always look at my watch, wonder when five o'clock was going to come or six o'clock because I really wasn't as happy or fulfilled being an accountant. But during those three years, three and a half years in the IRS DID, my first three years, I very much enjoyed the job. I worked on very exciting criminal investigations, illegal drug smuggling, tax evasion from very big people that cheated on hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, money laundering investigations. I very much enjoyed the job. And of course, I still believe that when people cheat on their taxes, taxes that are mandatorily paid and do and knowing that they should be investigated and punished. You remember from yesterday that I did it right now. It's really easy. I really enjoyed myself. I brought something I didn't bring yesterday. I wanted to show you when I went through training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, I was elected president of my training class. And I don't know if it's big enough for you to see, but it's a federal agent type guy with his dark glasses and fedora. And it says, I'm your worst nightmare, an accountant with a gun. And that's basically what IRS agents, special agents were considered, accountants with guns. We have a lot of financial expertise. I'm still saying we, like I still work there. But I still do have a lot of pride in that law enforcement profession and have a lot of friends in that area. Anyway, this is a second shirt. I used to wear this on search warrants. I was very proud of my job. As I said, I enjoyed it very much. But unfortunately, in December of 1996, my career euphoria started to take a bit of a downturn. I was listening to a talk radio show out in San Francisco, California. I was hosted by a man named Jeff Metcalf. And Mr. Metcalf had a lady on his show named D.V. Kidd. And actually, D.V. Kidd is one of the panelists here. And I believe that day I was driving around in my government car with my gun and my badge and thinking I was doing the right thing. And D.V. Kidd was on the radio saying what at the time sounded like very unbelievable and outrageous allegations. She was saying things like the federal income tax is voluntary for most Americans. She was saying that the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution had never been legally ratified. And she said that the money that we pay in income tax, federal income tax, does not go towards providing revenue for the U.S. government to operate. Well, I'm sure you can imagine that I didn't really like what I heard. But because she was on Jeff Metcalf's show, a man who had established credibility with me in the past, I went ahead and ordered books that she offered on the radio. Why a Bankrupt America and Blind Loyalty. So that was about December of 1996. I spent upwards of two and a half years researching the information that Ms. Kidd put in her booklets. And she referred to a number of individuals in the booklets. And interestingly enough, she would put the telephone numbers of the people with this evidence about these allegations that she mentioned on the radio right in her booklets. So I thought to myself, well, you know, I'm an investigator. I use the phone quite, quite often to perform my investigations. I'm going to call these people and just ask them. And that's exactly what I did. So over a period of approximately two and a half years from about January of 1997 when I received Give You Kids booklets until February of this year, I spent researching and trying to disprove the allegations and claims that she made about the federal income tax, 16th Amendment, where our tax money goes, those kinds of things. The first person I called was Bill Conklin, who will be speaking shortly. And believe it or not, I took the day off work and I called up Mr. Conklin and I said, hello, my name is Joe Bannister and when I'm taking the day off and when I'm at work, I'm a special agent for the IRS Criminal Investigation Division. And I've read some of these very, very unbelievable allegations in B.B. Kidd's books and I'm not quite sure why I'm calling you. I guess I'm basically trying to disprove what she's saying. Now, I expected Bill Conklin because as I was reading these books, I'm getting this mental picture of what the IRS had always told me a tax protester, quote unquote, was like, you know, drooling, incomprehensible, you really can't understand what they're saying. They're not making any sense. And as you'll see soon when Mr. Conklin speaks, he doesn't drool at all. And he's actually a very, very educated and intelligent man. So anyway, over a long period of months, I found out that contrary to my perception or belief, the information that he provided me was actually very credible and it made a tremendous amount of sense. His issue deals with the Fifth Amendment and the filing of federal income tax returns. And I won't go too deep into it. I'll let him, let the expert talk about it. But obviously, after talking to Bill Conklin, I definitely got a feeling that he was making some sense and maybe there was something to these allegations that D.D. Kidd published. So the next person I moved to in D.D.'s book was a man named Bill Benson who you've just heard speak. And Mr. Benson, as you saw, definitely has some very compelling evidence that the 16th Amendment was never ratified. Again, contrary to my perceptions, I thought that I'd be talking to somebody that, you know, he wasn't drooling. He was certainly not making any sense, totally incomprehensible. That was my expectation. But as you can see, Mr. Benson was a professional investigator himself. He has moved heaven and earth to try to inform the American people about this 16th Amendment issue so that it gets debated and discussed. Then I called D.D. Kidd and told her that I was an IRS special agent from the Criminal Investigation Division. So of course, she said to me, yeah, right. But eventually, I was able to prove that to her. And so her basic question to me was, what are you going to do about it? And obviously, that was a tough question because that's exactly the kind of decision that I had to come to was what am I going to do about it? And what I did was I went back and basically reflected, and I didn't do this all in five minutes, but I reflected over a long period of time about what really had meaning to me in life. And I thought about the Ninth Commandment, which forbids us from bearing false witness against our neighbor. I thought about the Constitution that I had sworn oath to support and defend. I thought about the IRS Mission Statement, which speaks of collecting a fair amount of tax with integrity and fairness, helping taxpayers to understand and meet their tax responsibilities. I basically looked at the guideposts in my life to help me determine what I would do next. I just take note of drinking water. So what I decided to do was to accumulate all of my own research and proof in a report that was very similar to the kind of report that I would do as an IRS special agent. Accumulate the facts and the evidence and basically come to a conclusion or at least a recommendation on what to do next. Well, when it came to be early 1999 and I felt that I had researched this as much as I possibly could and was comfortable enough and confident enough in my own research that I could take a position, take a stand, I did so and I decided that I was going to actually submit that report that I prepared to my supervisors and I'm sure you can imagine that was quite a leap for me. It took a lot of soul searching because I knew I just had this feeling that the IRS and my supervisors all the way up the chain would not be very positive about what I had to say. but still I had these convictions, I had all of my guideposts to rely on, my faith in God and I just thought I've got to do this. I have to ask these questions, I've sworn an oath to support and defend people's rights and whatever adversity may come my way, I feel that I have this duty and I need to earn my pay. So, on February 8th of 1999, I submitted my report to my immediate supervisor and by February 11th, my supervisor's boss, who was the chief of our Central California division, called me into his office and to say that he looked at me like I had two heads would probably be an understatement. He said to me, are you really serious about this? Because what I had asked on February 8th was that my report be submitted not only to my chief but all the way up the chain to Commissioner Rosati here in Washington, D.C. I respectfully requested that they review my evidence and show me the error of my analysis, if any. I really, sincerely needed some guidance and at that point, although I had spoken with the various people on the panel and others, I was not doing anything publicly about this. I wanted to get answers to my questions because I was issued a gun and a badge to put people in jail and when called for, shoot someone. I mean, I had the authority to use deadly force carrying a gun. I would think I would at least need to know what the laws I was enforcing were all about. So I did present that evidence to my supervisors and from February 11th to February 17th, didn't hear anything. I went ahead and just did my job as I had always done and then on February 17th, I was called in to my chief's office again and I was given a memorandum and actually, I should back up because I always forget this part but when I submitted my report on February 8th, I told them that if they were not able to show me the error of my analysis, then I'd be forced to resign because I could not serve two masters. I believed that the constitution and the income tax was all one and I wouldn't have any push-pull or conflict between the two and I had now come in contact with that conflict and needed some resolution. On February 17th, I was issued a short memorandum which stated that the IRS as an agency would not be responding to my report. They also told me that they would provide me with the necessary paperwork to tender my resignation and the last thing they told me was that I was to be placed immediately on administrative leave for a period of seven days to think about what I had done and what I was going to do. So, that day, I turned in my gun. They didn't take my badge from me but they took my gun and I spent the next few days on a paid vacation, I guess you could say, to think about what I was going to do. On February 25th, which happened to be my birthday and I believe it also happened to be the day that the, that Flandernox proclaimed that the 16th Amendment was ratified, things are all kind of coming together and I resigned from the IRS criminal investigation division and the reason I resigned is obvious. I got, I received no response whatsoever from the agency. And folks, that concludes tonight's broadcast. Tomorrow night, I will back up the tape about five minutes so that the continuity of what Mr. Bannister is talking about can be preserved. And I'll do that every night if at the end of the broadcast we have to interrupt one of the speakers. I hope you're learning something. I hope you're taking notes. And by the way, you can have a copy of the two tape videotape set for $20 postpaid by sending a blank money order. Remember, if you fill it out, we will return it. We will not accept it. 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