The Hour of the Time may be contacted at HOT, that's H-O-T-T, P-O-Box 940, Eager, spelled E-A-G-A-R, in the state of Arizona, 85925. Our phone number is 928-333-2942. And our website is www.hourofthetime.com. Okay, go ahead. Okay. Start over again, because I don't know if I missed something that you might have seen. Well, I've been surfing and watching the television, and just recently they have been replaying some of the videos from earlier today. And especially the second tower, it shows this thing pancaking on itself starting from the top. I've watched it over. I've got a television set right here in front of me. I've watched it over and over and over again. And this whole building collapses in upon itself exactly as if it were demolished by a professional demolition firm that was hired to bring the building down. Well. That's what I see. I've watched it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Well, the one I saw, I know that the building collapsed, pancaking on itself, starting from the top and coming straight down. Well, that's not what I see. Well, that's what I saw on the second one, because there's a tower. There's a radio tower or something on top of that. And that thing came perfectly straight down. The whole building comes perfectly straight down. Well, that's true. But it started from the top. It didn't start falling down from the bottom. It started from the top. Well, that's not what I see. Well, then you need to get new glasses, Bill. No, I don't need new glasses. Well, you do as hell do, because you don't know what you're talking about. I'm sorry, sir, but I do know what I'm talking about. Now, I didn't call you a liar about what you saw. And I'm certainly not going to let you do the same to me. I have been sitting here watching it all day long, and that's what I see. I have watched many buildings come down on purpose. And that's exactly what it looks like is happening here. Good evening. You're on the air. Hey, Bill. It's Linda. Hi. I just see an interesting quote on the engineering website about the World Trade Center. Yeah. And it's in relation to the previous bombing there a couple years ago. Yeah. It says on February 26, 1993, a large bomb inside a van in the parking garage underneath the World Trade Center was detonated, killing six people and injuring 1042. The bomb was 1,200 pounds of urea nitrate comparable in size to the Oklahoma City bomb, causing a tremendous release of energy with not a single place to go because it was all closed in. While the explosion created an enormous crater where the parkade used to stand, the terrorist's intention of to topple, the 110-story building was thwarted by Yamasaki's engineering steel. That's the designer of the building. Uh-huh. Because of the low-carrying role of the exterior steel columns, and the foundation was unaffected by the blast. All right. Isn't that interesting? Yeah. And we have another quote from the people who designed it, who say that it was designed to take the full impact of a 707 commercial jetliner. Yeah. Well, I was looking for that, and I saw this. You'll find it on the Newsmax.com site. Okay. If you want to, you know, get that. Also, we've discovered that there was a third building that also came down. Yeah. I've been hearing about that all afternoon. How did it come down? Because no plane hit it, and no part of the other two buildings came down on it. Right. Why did it come down? Well, you know, there's a fourth building that came down. I don't know whether you heard about that. There was, the third one was another part of the complex there. Yeah, it's about, according to what I heard, it's about 48 or some odd stories high. Yeah, and the other one is a Marriott building. Yeah. And it came down, too? Yeah. Why did it come down? I don't know. It just collapsed. Just presto chango. It was on the ground, just like the other ones. There you go. Four buildings, folks. Yeah. Magic. Was it immediately adjacent to the World Trade Center buildings? I'm not clear on that. It was, I'm not clear where it was. I got the impression that it was, like, across the street from that third building that came. Uh-huh. But I don't know. All I know was that it was the Marriott. Wow. Well, that's incredible. That's another building that I didn't know anything about. Now we've got four buildings down. One of which we know, a plane did not hit, and no part of the other two buildings came down on top of it. And there's no reason why that third building should have collapsed. And we didn't know anything about the Marriott. Well, I'll watch the local news. But they're saying there's looting going on in New York now, too. That wouldn't surprise me a bit. Yeah. Wouldn't even surprise me a bit. Linda, did you watch the buildings collapse? Did it look... I saw one of them collapse. What did it look like to you? It looked exactly like a controlled detonation. It was perfect. Have you been listening to this broadcast? For the past couple of hours. But I knew that when I saw the thing fall down, which is before I heard you on the air this evening. So you saw what I saw. Yeah. Basically. It looks exactly to me like it was brought down by a demolition team that knew exactly what they were doing. Yeah. Exactly. Well, there's been other examples of buildings that actually had structural failure. Like there was a walkway that collapsed like in a dance club or something like that. Uh-huh. And they collapsed like cardboard boxes. They didn't just disintegrate like this building did. No. They don't come straight down ever. They fall over or pieces of them fall out or sides of them fall off. Right. But they don't collapse in on this all the way to the bottom like these buildings have done. I know. And if you look at the pictures, and I've only seen a couple of them all day long, when they show the base of the buildings, you can see what's left of the structural members of the building all cut at the same height. Huh. And that's about 100 feet above the ground, I'm estimating. I don't really know if that's the proper height because I don't have any perspective to measure it by. It could be lower than that. Yeah. I haven't seen any of those. So there we go. Yeah. And now we've got to find out what brought down the third building and what brought down the Marriott. I had no idea. I didn't even know about the Marriott. And until Bart called, I didn't know about the third building either. Well, I'll see what I can find, and I'll send you something. Okay. You're, okay, please, yeah, do that. Okay. And if you find anything out, you know, before 8 p.m. tonight, call back on the air. All right. Thanks, Linda. Okay. Bye-bye. Appreciate it. Thanks. Bye. 520-333-4578 is the number. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello. Hello, Bill. Yeah. I can hardly hear you. I can hear you loud and clear. Go ahead. Well, good. What I want to say, I don't think you people see what I see. See, that plane didn't actually hit that building. What happened was the fuel tank on the plane blew up before it hit the building. And then, if you look real close. Wait a minute. Which plane are you talking about? The first one or the second one? The second one. Well, both of them, actually. The fuel tank blew up, like in Flight 800. You remember that? Huh? Okay. And then, if you look real close, there was a yellow Reuter truck drove by. And that's what blew that building up. See? Ah. Take a hike. I don't know who that guy was. But, I watched. I didn't see the first plane hit the first building. I don't even know if anybody's got any footage of that. But, I saw the second one hit. And, it flies right into the building. No fuel tank blows up before it hits. It said nothing like TWA Flight 800. And, I have been watching all day long. It's right here in front of my nose. And, nobody has ever shown any footage of any Reuter truck. Good evening. You're on the air. Hey, Phil. This is Mike from Indiana. Hi, Mike. Hi. How's it? Well, I don't know how it's going because I know how it is. Anyways, I couldn't second. I've seen the ABC footage of that other building coming down. Okay. Was it hit by any of the other two buildings? No. It really didn't appear that way at all. In fact, it was hours and hours and hours. In fact, it just happened at about dumps New York time. And, when it came down, it was, it came down. There was no doubt from the bottom. There was no doubt about it. Well, there you go, folks. There you go. What's this about the Marriott? Well, from what I understand, four buildings have come down. And, then, supposedly, there's more that are structurally unsound. And, they might have more coming down. So, they're structurally unsound from what? Well, that's just it. I don't know, actually. You know, I'm more or less, you know, trying to listen to the four-year program and just sort of just watching, you know, the footage. I'm not trying not to listen so I don't get anything put into my head that I don't need. Yeah, well, you don't need it, to tell you the truth. Right. And, all you're going to hear for the next few weeks and maybe even months is this tremendous brainwashing campaign. And, it's over and over and over how terrible it was and how many people lost their lives and how many people were wounded and how terrible it is. And, how it justifies what the government's going to do and who they're going to attack and the laws that they're going to pass. Listen, it's going to be sickening. It's literally going to be sickening. Hey, Bill, Mike, I just have a little statement. I've listened to you for many, many years now. And, one thing that has not surprised me, but one thing I have to say is that when you say you predicted this stuff, you absolutely did. I mean, I remember reading Behold a Pale Horse about, you know, a terrorist attack in the heartland. And, I remember after that happening, you said it's going to go to New York or somewhere in the east, some big thing there. And, I remember you also made a statement that always stuck with me. You said that, and maybe, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but you said something to the effect of, they wanted to bring down the World Trade Centers the first time they didn't do it. And, you said it wouldn't shock you if it happened again. That's right. And, so, I mean, this stuff, I mean, you know, and there's no doubt in my mind that you've been correct all along. And, so, and I'm sure I know you don't want to be. No, I certainly don't want to be. But, if people would just listen to me and understand what the agenda of these globalists really is, and stop concentrating on trying to prove me wrong, but understand that if they don't under, if they don't get a grasp on this and stop it, they're going to lose their country, their freedoms, and everything that they ever valued forever. And, they're going to be relegated to, like, third world status. If you want to know how they're going to end up living, go down to Tijuana. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, that's about all I have to add. But, you know, thank you for the good work. And, I just want to say to the listeners out there, you've paid for a lot of programming tonight. And, I know that your listeners support it now. So, let me just say as a viewer, to all the other viewers, to definitely support Bill Cooper tonight because he's putting a lot on the line to be with us tonight and help us out. 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Have a good evening. You too. Bye-bye. Yeah, folks, I certainly don't like being right about any of this. I really, really do not. And, I did make that statement. They tried to bring it down the first time. They didn't do it. I said it wouldn't surprise me. In fact, I think that they'll try again. And, I think the second time, they'll be successful. That's what I said. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello, Bill. About 21 minutes ago on ABC, they showed a close view of one of the two twin towers coming down. Uh-huh. The guy was, I'm guessing, about two blocks away. So, the angle was right up at the building. And, in spite of, that view was quite clear in contrast to some of the rather ambiguous footage that they had been showing in some other shots. Yeah. Which were from further away. Uh-huh. Now, of that view, you could see the building. They're just taking a picture of the fires. Uh-huh. And, then, all of a sudden, you see this top part starting to come crashing down and gradually going down, down, down, down the floors. Uh-huh. Now, I don't know whether that was the first Tower 1 or Tower 2. I can't tell you that. Okay. But, it was quite clear in that view. And, then, another view that they had showed right after that from a little further away. And, it showed it that way also. And, it was quite unambiguous that it started at the top. And, the engineer who was on a little earlier than that, he said that the buildings, although they were made to withstand the impact of a plane, and, obviously, they did because they stood for another half hour. And, although a 707, I don't think, is bigger than a 767 that hit the building. I don't know. I don't know. Anyway. Wait a minute. I don't know what the comparative size is between those two planes. But, I don't think the difference is going to be substantial. I agree with you. I don't think it is substantial. The building did stand for quite a long time. And, the construction engineer said that the buildings are made to withstand fires, but not the fires of lots and lots of jet fuel in there. And, he thinks that the jet fuel was burning at a temperature higher than the 1,500 or 1,600 degrees that the building at that height is designed for. That could be possible. And, that's what he says. Were you rolling tape on this? Actually, I was rolling tape on CBS, and I have not watched CBS. I've been watching ABC because I'm rolling the tape on CBS. If you have a tape of what you've just described, I'd like for you to send me a copy so I can look at it. Because, I'm watching C-SPAN 2. And, they haven't shown anything like what you described. What you need is a tape of what came across on ABC about 25 minutes ago. I don't have it. I've got CBS on my tape. So, I'm sure somebody probably has. We need another tape from ABC, too. The one of the third building coming down, which I didn't even know about. I believe those other. Oh, and one of those pictures of the tower coming down. I think the building, of course, is going down by gravity. It's not going to topple. No way can those things fall over. Gravity prevents that. They have to collapse straight down. Gravity only allows for that. And, as they're collapsing down, I think the stuff is falling down on the inside, and then one of the walls falls outward and lands up to a block and a half away from the looks of it in the picture that I saw. Wow. Some hours ago. I wish that you'd been rolling tape because I would really like to. Well, I don't know what's on my tape, so we'll have to see what's on that stuff. Take a look at it. When I'm done taping. Okay. I got one tape filled and another one at four hour mark, I think. But this stuff that came out from this building started a lot of fires, and those other buildings just could have been burned out on the inside and came down. I don't know. I saw some other buildings burning after the two collapsed and all the dust and smoke and stuff. I did see some other buildings burning, but I don't know what they were, or even where they were in relationship to the towers or these other two buildings. Right. That we've been talking about. And all these videos, they don't have a compass on them, so you never know which way they're pointed and what the angle is. Yeah. Okay, good night. I'll leave it to somebody else. Thank you very much. Bye. So, folks, don't be surprised when different people who see the same thing see it differently. Now, if you don't believe me, it happens all the time. Ask any police detective who interviews witnesses of any bank robbery, murder, or anything else. Everybody sees something different. All I'm telling you is what I see right here on C-SPAN 2, and some other people have seen it differently, and some other callers have seen exactly what I've seen. Nobody has seen anything other than those two scenarios, so whatever happened has got to be one of those two. Good evening. You're on the air. Hey, Bill. Ken from Delaware again. Hi. The third building that came down, that was the building, that was the number seven World Trade building. That was a 47-story building, approximately a block and a half, catacorner away from number one World Trade Center. What they were saying was that debris from the collapsing buildings impacted that on the side, and then that caused that building to structurally fall, and there was, I saw, there was a live interview on MSNBC when that incident occurred. I saw it, and it looked like you heard a rumble, like a constant rumbling noise. I don't know if I had tape running or not. I have to check the VCR whether it was on or not. Did you see the piece of the other building hit this third building? No, I did not see that. But you heard somebody say that that's what happened. That's what they said on MSNBC. Okay. And one other thing also... See, when Bart first told me about that, I suspected that maybe a piece of one of the two buildings that had come down had maybe hit that building and caused it to collapse. Bart said it collapsed, you know, like a long time later. And... Oh, it was several hours. Yeah. Several hours later. And they were claiming that the fire people, the fire department, said that that building, the number seven of World Trade, was structurally unsound. Okay. And one other interesting fact, I was tuning across to CNBC, that number seven World Trade building had an awful lot of ancillary offices that were connected to Wall Street located in it. That building is gone. Wall Street is not going to be open tomorrow. Or maybe for several days. Or maybe for several days. Okay. Finally, and I don't want to hold it too long, I can get local New York radio, AM radio, here in Delaware. Yeah. There has been some reports of looting in the northern areas of Manhattan. And as I speak, they said the National Guard is on, has been called into the New York City, Manhattan Island, and they are currently patrolling the streets. Yeah, the governor, Pataki, actually made an announcement on the air several hours ago saying that he had called up the National Guard. So we knew they were coming in. Okay. Let me let someone else get in, Bill. Okay. Thanks for your report on that third building. I hope it helps. Until Bart called, I didn't even know that any other buildings had collapsed. Yeah. I'm watching C-SPAN 2. I've been watching it all day long. And their coverage is quite limited, I believe. But because I'm going to them from time to time, I can't go to the other networks because I can't go to the other networks lawfully. Okay. Okay. But C-SPAN is publicly funded and receives part of their money for operating expenses from the government. And that means I can use their feet if I want to, and so can anybody else. There you go. Okay. Have a good one. Well, good night. I hope we can have a good night. There you go. Let me let someone else get in. Thanks for calling. Bye. Bye. Bye. 520-333-4578 is the number. And appreciate all your calls and all the information that you guys are furnishing. That's the way it's supposed to work. Good evening on the air. Yeah, Bill. Yeah. I wanted to call you and put my two cents in on that third building. I just seen it not long ago go down. And it went down pretty much the same as the other two did. It just went straight down. Yeah. And I don't understand why they would just go straight down. I thought the same thing as you. I don't either because, you know, what a previous caller said, that's the only way that they can come down. And that's not true. You talk to these people who do professional demolition jobs to bring buildings down. And they'll tell you. I've talked to a lot of them. In fact, I used to teach underwater demolitions for the College of Oceaneering. I worked with demolitions underwater. I've talked to these guys many times to learn things and to become more proficient at what I know about explosives, which was initially taught to me by the United States Navy before I went to Vietnam. And they tell me that it's extremely difficult. It is not normal for a building to come straight down. And it's extremely difficult to make them come straight down. Well, that's what I would think, too. But another thing I've noticed, all the shots when they show you these buildings coming down are a distant shot. It's not a good shot of a building. You don't see the bottom. And naturally, when the clouds come up, they probably could blast them at the bottom. And you would have never known it because it would be all covered up by the debris and the smoke and everything from the thing coming down. Yeah. Yeah, well, you're right about that. I've watched it over and over again all day long. And it looks to me like some professional went in there and brought that building straight down right on itself. I mean, it didn't even deviate not one half a degree from center line. Well, the other thing that you have to worry about, too, is the fact, okay, maybe it did happen that it fell down on its own that way. But three buildings falling down that way on the same day? I mean, come on. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you, my friend. Thanks for calling. Yes, sir. 520-333-45787. Yeah, I'm with him. I am with him. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello. Hello. I saw the third building come down on CBS in between 7.30 and 8 p.m. Central Time, which would be 6.30 and 7.00 p.m. Mountain Time. That was on CBS. Okay. That's about 30 minutes ago, right? Well, more like 45, 50 minutes ago. All right. I don't have a VCR, but I thought I would tell you. That's what I saw. The third building come down that Bart mentioned. Yeah. And what did you see? It was first they showed the two towers and the airplanes running into the towers. Uh-huh. Then after that occurred, they showed the third building, which was a smaller one. It came straight down, and there was no airplane that ran into it. Did they give any reason why that building would fall? A previous caller said that when the other two buildings fell, a part of one of those buildings flew over and hit that building. I can't remember if they said anything, if there was any connection to the third building or not. Huh. Okay. But on the other side of this, if you fast forward, they'll introduce anti-terrorism legislation, and every congressman, or the Masonic Doctrine of Orto FKO, on the other side, well, every congressman is going to be under the gun to vote yes. Yep. That's right. And all the networks are going to... Yeah, and the sheep will be screaming for it. And, you know, that CNN daytime talk show where they have this woman walking around with a microphone, everybody's sitting there, you know, like a bunch of puppets, nodding their head yes. They're going to be screaming for it, and talk shows all over the country, everybody's going to be calling for it. Do you think that it could have been, like, mind control people done part of this? I have no idea. I don't know who did it. I don't have a clue as to who did it. But, well, in anti-terrorism legislation now, would they want to go all the way and go after the guns, too, and everything? I don't know. They'll go as far as they can go. We know that from past experience. They'll go as far as we let them. Okay. That's all? Okay. Thanks for calling. Yeah. They will go as far as we will let them go. And, you know, after this, when they start counting how many people are dead, and the tremendous loss and property damage and everything else, you can bet your boots it may be a long way. Good evening. You're on the air. Bill? Yeah. Yeah. Let me explain something. You know, they tried to make us believe that Flight 800 went down because the tank blew. Are you the guy that called before? Yes, but let me explain this. They tried to make us believe this. Bill? I'm right here. Okay. They tried to make us believe. We know that plane was shot down. Yep. Okay. Then they tried to make us believe that that info bomb blew the building up in Oklahoma. Okay? It wasn't an info bomb. It was an anfo bomb. Well, whatever. Ammonium nitrate. Yeah, sure. Everybody that knows anything, and I've been at this stuff for 38 years, but the news media tries to make us believe that all these things happened. Flight 800 was shot down by a missile. You know that, and I know that. So you're telling me that you were making some kind of a joke before? Yes. Okay. I'm trying to show that if you believe whatever the news media is going to put out, they put this plane, or put these buildings down, let's go along and believe that Flight 800 was shot down, or I mean was blown up from the tank. A spark in the fuel thing. Yeah. And let's believe that that info bomb, even though some of the front pillars were still left standing in Oklahoma, and the ones behind it were severed, let's believe all the bull that they tell us. Huh? That's what I'm trying to tell you. Well, I think most people already do. Because, my dear friend, what I was trying to do is prove that we're being sold down the river. We have been for years. Yep, you're right. And it's done by the people who run the railroad. And it's about time the American people woke up. I even call everything in the book for years. And he's being, he's also being, he's also being facetious about the people who run the railroad, folks. Well, God bless you, sir, for what you're trying to do. Well, thank you. And I'm sorry I missed the, I missed your little humor back then. And we were talking about, we were talking about such serious things. I wasn't listening for somebody to come on and tell a joke. That was the last thing I expected. Well, it's not a joke, but if you believe the other BS are going to tell us, let's believe all the rest of it. You know? Yeah. Well, most people do. Yeah, we do. Unfortunately, they do. But that's what we're trying to get across. But I thank you for your time, sir. You're welcome. I appreciate it. Thanks for calling. Yes, sir. 520-333-4578 is the number. Boy, it's a long day for me, folks. Good evening. You're on the air. Hey, this is Mike in Florida. Hello, Mike. I don't know if anyone caught this, but the fact is it took them a long time to come up with a casualty account. Well, they're not going to have a complete casualty account for days. Well, you know, don't you think that's awful strange? That plane, to me, looked like a drone. Yeah, I know. But apparently, all four of these planes were hijacked and had passengers on them. Yeah, I know that's what they reported. But the thing is, is they could have come up with that manifest within an hour. They never did until later in the day. Well, sometimes they won't. Like, it took a long time for them to come out with the casualties from TWA Flight 800 and other planes that have crashed. Lockerbie, it was days before we got any list of casualties from that airplane. Okay, I just wanted to put that input in there. So it's not unusual. Thank you. To take a long time to come out with the list of people who died in a plane crash. Thanks for calling. 520-333-4578 is the number. That's not unusual at all. For whatever reason, sometimes it takes a while. Maybe it's just to make sure that they're not releasing somebody's name who maybe wasn't on the plane. Sometimes somebody books a ticket and they never get on. Good evening. You're on the air. Bill, it's Paul from Ohio. Hi, Paul. Yeah, I was tuned in late to the program and I was hearing about, you know, I guess you're asking about why the building collapsed the way it did or whatnot. The third building. Yeah. And the Marriott. We don't know why they collapsed. Yeah, I just, I don't have an overview of, you know, the layout and how the building is set up. But from what I've seen, it looks like, you know, the one side, the opposite side, they show a good side of the building and you can tell the opposite side of the building is, you know, sort of caving in, you know, and everything is following. And I think maybe just, you know, you know, a debris from the other buildings and, you know, weakening the foundation and underground. That could be. That was my first suspicion. And I asked if any part of the other buildings had fallen on it. And Bart said no. He didn't believe that it did. And then later we, somebody called and said that they were watching, I believe it was ABC, and they said that a part of one of the large towers that fell had fallen on this third building. But then we have also a report that the Marriott Hotel collapsed. Yeah. I think that would be helpful. Some of the news programs showed an overview and, you know, just an aerial view of what happened. You know, we're just seeing the ground view and side views. And on a related note, I'm a, you know, I'm an aircraft mechanic for one of the cargo carriers. And, you know, I've got, they told me not to come into work tonight. And I used to work for a passenger airline. And one of the major ones in that security there at the airports are a joke. You know, just, you could see how they could get knives or guns on the aircraft through the people who service the aircraft. And so I could see how they got control of one of them aircraft like that. Well, they got control of four. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they could have done more, you know. And it's how stupid the security is, you know. Well, there must be something. It's a very interesting haywire because, you know, every time I've been to an airport since they instituted all this stuff, you know, it was a tremendous inconvenience and an insult to me to have to go through just, you know, all that stuff. And, of course, I wear a prosthesis, so I always set off the alarm. Yeah. And they always want me to go over to the side and wave that magic wand around. And I want to stick it, you know, where the sun don't shine. Yeah. What I want to do with their magic wand. And, you know, it can be embarrassing sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you, like, you know, while the aircraft's at the gates there, you know, the back, you know, going to the back door approach there. You know, I don't want to go into details about it. But they, you know, they put the passengers through hell, you know, through security measures, it seems like. Yeah, but you're trying to tell me that nobody else has to go through that. Well, yeah, like, you know, people who put the beverage, service the beverages and food on the aircraft, they, you know. They just drive in and do it? Yeah. I mean, no one's inspecting, you know, the, no one's inspecting. Well, you know, I've suspected this for a long time. It's like a military. It's very, you know, let's see, you know, they're sure they have to have an IED to get on the airport. But after that, you know, it's, you know, no one's checking their clothing, you know, lumping boxes. You know, it's a joke. It's like, to me, it's, well, I was in the military for a long time. I was in the Air Force and the Navy. And security in the Air Force and the Navy is also a joke. Yeah. If, once you know about it, you could get in and blow anything up that you wanted to. Yeah. And it's real simple. Although the military thinks they've got it locked up tighter than a drum, it's just not true. You got time for a quick question. Go ahead. I've been here since 9.30 this morning. I guess I got plenty of time. Yeah. Okay. With the, you know, another point and finger that, you know, Ben Laden and his associates. How do they know? Yeah. I'm just saying, you know. I'm not questioning you. Yeah. I'm questioning them. How do they know? How can they make these accusations when they have no idea who did this? If they do, then that means that they knew about it before it happened. Yeah. Because there's no way that they could know that it was some particular individual after it happened, when all of the people who perpetrated it are dead. Yeah. Unless they knew about it beforehand. Do they have the technology to track down somebody like that? Let me tell you. Let me tell you. I don't believe in, they could tell me until their noses turned purple that they've never known or been able to find Osama bin Laden. And I don't believe it for one single instant. I think they're lying. Yeah. Because Fox News, when they wanted to interview Osama bin Laden, they just went right straight to him. Right. Now, how does that happen? Yeah. How could they even contact him? Yeah. Do they even think... And you're telling me that the entire intelligence structure of the United States government can't find the guy? And Fox News just waltzes right in? It seems to me he's like their token boogeyman, you know. Well, they've got to have one. Read the report from Iron Mountain and you'll understand the whole concept of why they always have to have an enemy for the population to focus their anger on. Okay. Well, I'll let you go. Let someone else on. All right. Bye-bye. Thanks for calling. Yeah. Read the report from Iron Mountain, folks. You'll begin to understand a lot more once you've read that little treatise. Good evening. You're on the air. Oh, okay. I finally got through. Yeah, I was talking with a guy this morning about how the buildings were coming down. This was just the towers. We didn't know about the other buildings then. And he was saying that they were constructed as temporary structures. They're only supposed to last 100, maybe 150 years. Which structures? The towers. The world's... Well, that's absolutely not true. Well? That's absolutely not true. I can tell you that, but they were never built as temporary structures. They were built as permanent structures. Well... And you can't build a building that high that might be subject to hurricane winds and crashes of airplanes and all kinds of things like that as a temporary building. Because of the metal fatigue and the tubular structure of it, that it would cease to be safe after a certain number of years. Well, that could be absolutely true. But they were never built to be temporary structures. They were built to be strong and last for a certain number of years. Yeah. Well, okay. When I mean temporary, I mean a couple hundred years or something. Well, that's certainly not temporary in my book. Temporary is like, you know, maybe a year or something. It's not as permanent as the pyramids either. Well, of course not. Okay. But he was saying that when they put it up, they had an idea about how they were going to take it down. You know. And he's an engineer and I'm not. Uh-huh. I can't tell you much more than that. Yeah. Well, I'm sure that what he told you, it sounds reasonable to me. Yeah. Um, but nothing, especially of that size, unless it was built like the pyramids, could be expected to last forever. Yeah. And I can testify, because I've been up there at the top, that just on a normal day, the top of that building swings back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. We understand. And it scared me. I mean, it was spooky. Yeah. It was spooky. And they've got a place where you can walk out and it's like glass, real thick glass, and you can look down, it's like you're standing on air. Yeah. And you can look right straight down at the street, right below your feet. And I'll tell you, um, that, um, I had to get off of there real quick. Yeah. I chose not to go out myself. I had to get off of there real quick. Yeah. That really, really, uh, was an experience that I did not like. Yeah. I got another thing I wanted to talk about, too, was the cell phone calls from the people on the hijacked airliners. Uh-huh. Uh, including Barbara Olson calling her husband the solicitor general. Um, they, they describe, uh, plastic knives and plastic knife-like instruments and so on, which I suppose they could have gotten by the, the metal detector. No problem. Yeah. Low-tech. Very low-tech, uh, thing. And they, by doing that, they probably kept the conspiracy small, uh, because they didn't need cooperation from, uh, anybody working at the airport to let them in. Yeah. If that, if that's true, you're right. They wouldn't have needed cooperation from anybody. And they could have hidden those things anywhere in their body. It wouldn't have set off any, uh, any, uh, metal detectors or any security apparatus. Yeah. And the networks, while they're giving us this information, they're not telling us any description of, of the hijackers that, uh, the people with the cell phones may have relayed. And I can't believe for instance... I wonder why... ...they didn't describe them in terms of some ethnicity or gender or anything. I, I would find it hard to believe, too, especially since Barbara Olson, uh, used to be a federal prosecutor. Yeah. And, uh, she would have been doing her best to describe everything. Uh, at least this is what I believe she would be doing. Yeah. Uh, people in extreme situations don't always behave as you would expect them to. So, I can't say for sure that's what she'd be doing. But I imagine that Barbara Olson would have tried to, to describe everything that she saw right down to the, to the least little, uh, uh, particular. Spring and tattoo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And some of the others, too, hopefully. But, uh, yeah, I don't know why they're keeping that from us. I don't know why they would either. Or even if they have that information. And it could be that, that everybody was so scared or shook up that maybe they didn't do that. And maybe all the reporters are too PC to ask something that might be interpreted as profiling. Yep. Could be. Okay. Thank you very much, Bill. I don't, I don't want to be picked on. Yeah. Thanks for calling. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, yeah. And, uh, I'm sure everybody that, uh, that watches Larry King live knows who Barbara Olson is. Good evening. You're on the air. Yeah, Bill, that whole thing don't look right, does it, brother? No, it doesn't. No? I can't believe I'm airplane's not done building down like that. I can't either. And, you know, the way the stock market's been going, I don't know, who knows, they may have staged this whole thing. Because it hasn't been doing nothing but going down for the last two or three weeks. Well, this is certainly not going to make it go up, I'll tell you. But I wonder, how far are those trade centers from Wall Street? I don't know. When I was in New York City, I visited the World Trade Centers and went all the way to the top. But I took a cab there, and I don't know anything about New York City. And so I can't tell you. I don't know how close to Wall Street it is or how far away it might be. I know you can see those towers from everywhere. I know that. I remember that about it. And when you're up on the top, it looks like you can see Colorado. I know you really can't. But, you know, you can see a long, long way from up there. Oh, I believe it. You know, something just doesn't look right. I've tried to figure out all day long. How can four planes be commandeered at about the same time to do all this kind of stuff? Well, I mean by knowing anything, as tight as security is supposed to be at these airports. If this had been years ago when NORAD was doing what it was designed to do and intended to do, it would not have happened. It couldn't have happened. It would not have happened. I believe that. But we've been so lax on our security, I don't know. We don't have any security. There isn't any security. Yeah, sometimes I even wonder. Well, nice talking to you. Thanks. Thanks for calling. Bye-bye. In fact, we're so weak now. I chuckle. But I chuckle because I don't know anything else to do. I'm at a loss here. This whole thing is so disconcerting. It just hurts so much. I mean, way deep down inside to see this happen. Even though I predicted it. I knew it was coming. I've been telling you. I even predicted the city. I told you that they didn't bring down the Rural Trade Center the first time and the second time they would probably be successful. And it still hurts. And it's still terrible. And I just hate it. I just can't stand it. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello? Hello? Hello? Oh, yes. I've got to turn the radio off. I heard my own echo. That shook me up. Are you scared of you? I gave out the number before you, private number. I've got some details on this thing. And I've got too much. I want to make a comment over the phone. But I don't want to rattle on. So if you said you've got a private number, I could lay on it. No. The only number is the number you just called. Pardon? The only number is the one you just called. But I don't want you to call me after this broadcast. Say what you've got to say right now. Oh, I've got to put this in my right ear. I've got a self, what do you call it, a wireless phone. And at $20, $10 rebate, it's garbage. You know, I get what I paid for. Well, go ahead and say what you called about. There was a lot of things. But the most important thing was this. I listened all day to the TV because there wasn't much about it. They were the ones that had all the details, not the short wave during the daytime. So I listened on the radio in the morning and then the TV in the afternoon around 12.1. And they mentioned how the plane was 50, 70 miles southeast of Pittsburgh. In the beginning, they said it was shot down. So I got to thinking to myself, maybe that was the one that was supposed to meet up with the other building. And there was a timed explosion. So there was no way to stop it. So the building came down. It would have looked a whole lot better if the plane got to where it was going. If it was shot down, it never got to where it was going. Does that make sense? That's what I heard on the television. I haven't heard on anything that I've been listening to or watching today that anything was shot down. I'm not saying you didn't hear that. I'm just saying I didn't hear it. And no other caller apparently has heard it either because they would have said something about it. Well, like I say, you know, I heard it, but it's sort of like, I don't know why they said that. You know, there was a lot of things said in the beginning that aren't said at the end. And all sorts of terrorist activities, you know. Things get changed. Well, you're certainly... I never found out about New Jersey. Why was there a crash in New Jersey? Or was that where one of the planes took off towards some other point? Because all over the country they were stopping planes. You know, they were successful in stopping planes from taking off. But I don't know where New Jersey fits into the picture. I don't either because I haven't heard of any plane crash in New Jersey. Yeah, well, they said there was four of them, four planes. One hit the Pentagon. Two out of Boston, and the other one can only have been either the one that crashed south of Pittsburgh. Yeah, that's the one. Pardon? Four planes. One crashed in Pennsylvania. Right. One hit the Pentagon. And two hit the World Trade Center towers. So they keep mentioning New Jersey, and I can't figure out if... Boston's a factor because it left Boston. New Jersey has to be a factor only because it left there or something cracked into there. Take a breath. You're right. I haven't heard anybody say anything about New Jersey. I don't know what you're listening to or what you got. I'm watching C-SPAN, too. No, I've been listening, jumping all over the place. I don't have cable, but I've been listening to a lot of different stations. What did they say? And I've been listening all day long. Take a breath. My God, will you just stop that? Okay? You know why? Because I can't hear you very good. Well, if you would stop and take a breath, you'd hear me every once in a while. Okay? Well, you may be right. You've got to have a dialogue here, not a speech. Okay? And... I've got to get rid of this phone. If you're listening, when they're talking about this New Jersey, you must know what they're talking about. Well, I only caught the tail end of it, because I leave the television and I come back later on, because, you know, like you, I've got other stuff I've got to do, you know? So you keep hearing this reference to New Jersey, and every time you hear it, you're at the tail end of the conversation, and you don't know what they're saying? Well, something about it figures into it. And the only way I can figure that it figures into it is if one of the planes, a plane took off from New Jersey or something cracked into it. I think it was Newark. I believe it was Newark. Nothing crashed into New Jersey. Nothing. So, I don't know what you're referring to. Well, I think they're having a field day with this, and they're making, they're creating a lot of confusion by throwing a lot of rumors around. I have no idea. I haven't heard anything about New Jersey all day. Well, it's like you said, I, uh, oh, as far as who did it, I think rogue fashions within our government set the charges, and I think our terrorists, Islamics, flew the planes in. I think it was a joint effort. I'm convinced. Well, you might be right. You might be wrong, but that's conjecture, and we don't deal in that. Oh, I knew that something big was going down in September. I just didn't know the date. Now I know the date. Who said that? In Patriot Circles, there was talk several months ago about something big going down in September. I tried to get more information. I couldn't get it. Now, let me tell you something. I'm right at the heart of the Patriot Circles, and I've never heard anything like that, ever. Well, what's interesting is the date is September 11th, which is 9, 9-11. What is 9-11? Emergency. Call 9-11. Bye. Goodbye. Don't get out in cuckoo land. Woo-woo. Woo-woo. That's Art Bell material. If you want to talk that stuff, go talk to Art Bell. If you've got some serious symbology that has something to do with the mystery schools, that is the trademark of the people who have done these other things and always leave their trademark, then we can talk about that. But if you want to go off in woo-woo Art Bell land, I don't want to hear it. Period. Go somewhere else. Good evening on the air. Hey, Bill. It wouldn't surprise me if that one plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was going for something highly symbolic. I mean, they hit the Pentagon, the Twin Towers of Babel over there in New York. Well, they said earlier today, after the Pentagon was hit, that there was a definite threat against the White House, but the plane wasn't headed toward the White House. It was headed toward Camp David, which doesn't mean that it wouldn't have made a course change and gone toward the White House. But this is all conjecture. Right. And conjecture really, you know, doesn't belong here. We don't know. Right. We don't know. We just don't know. I think, you know, just hitting the Pentagon was more or less a very highly symbolic thing. And I think the Washington Monument probably would have been a target Washington Monument. Well, I'll tell you what, if I was a terrorist, I'd hate to waste my life on a monument. That's possible. You know, I had a friend call me today who was really excited and all upset. And I don't want to get woo-woo-art-bell on you, but I just wanted to pass this along here. He was, like, astounded. I guess apparently he saw a movie in the 1980s that Orson Welles narrated. It was about this prophet Nostradamus. Yeah. And apparently Nostradamus said that there would be twin towers in New York City that would be engulfed in flames by mechanical birds. And he was just blown away. I don't know if this is true or not. I kind of vaguely remember this movie. I remember it. In fact, I have a copy of it. And they made this boogeyman up to look exactly like Saddam Hussein, who was supposed to be the Antichrist in the Middle East, who would rise up and cause a war. And then, you know, what happened after that was the Gulf War. And everybody made the connection with Saddam Hussein. I don't remember any Nostradamus prophecy about the twin towers being knocked down by mechanical birds. But that doesn't mean it wasn't in there. Yeah. I just don't remember. But I'll tell you this. This Nostradamus prophecy stuff is the biggest crock of crap that you'll ever see in your life. He wrote these in coded quatrains, which nobody has ever been able to decode. All right. So all these prophecies of Nostradamus claiming to know what he wrote and what he was trying to say is just a bunch of nonsense. I think I recall remembering something about a nuclear holocaust in the Middle East and then something to that effect. But who knows? It's highly possible that something, I mean, if they've gone this far, there could be some definitely nuclear, some sort of nuclear attack or terrorism or even a nuclear war. There could be. I've been telling you for years that if they don't get their way, if all of the stuff that's happened does not enable them to bring about their world totalitarian socialist government, disarm the American people and create their new world order, they'll blow up an American city with an atomic bomb. They will do it. I've said it probably a couple of hundred times. Yeah, well, I know. They'll do whatever it takes to get what they want. That's to enslave the human race under a world totalitarian socialist government. Reduce the population of the world to what they call a manageable level. Do away with the ownership of private property. And if you read the whole Communist Manifesto, it's right there. That's their goal. That's what they want. Right. And all I can do at this point, Bill, is for me to go on some of the local talk shows that are going to be pretty heated up. And I'm just going to say, I don't want my safety. I want my freedom. Don't give me your safety. I want my freedom. We live in a very hostile environment. Anything can happen. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. I'd rather be free living in a ditch than secure, surrounded by guards living in the Taj Mahal. That's me. That's me. That's me. Pretty simple guy. Thanks for calling. Thank you. 520-333-4578 is the number. Pretty spooky stuff this morning. I'm amazed, folks. And I am so thankful that it stopped when it did. At first, I thought, geez, this is going to go on and on and on. First, there was one plane, then two planes, then three planes, then four planes. And then they were talking about four more planes that had been hijacked that nobody could find. And that turned out to be baloney. Good evening. You're on the air. Hi, Bill. This is Bob from New Jersey. Hi. That former caller of yours talking about the New Jersey thing, one of the flights was from Newark. Okay. In Francisco. And that's the one that made you turn over to Pensy or Ohio or something and crashed in Pennsylvania. Okay. That's what I figured. Yeah, there was a guy on the radio today. I thought, I don't know if it would be interesting to you. When the building collapsed, he was taking pictures with a video cam and was running away from the scene when he saw the building start to come down. Yeah. And he said he just got around the corner of a building. And this cloud, you know, from the collapse, blew him across the street. So, I mean, the rush of air from all that debris falling down must have been something tremendous. Oh, I can imagine that it was probably unbelievable. Yeah. I'm glad I wasn't anywhere near it. Me too. All right. Just figured I'd clarify that point for you. Thanks for calling. Good night. 520-333-4578 is the number. Good evening. You're on the air. Yeah, hi, Bill. I just want to let you know about two things that I happened to hear on the TV today. I live here in New York. And I was hearing some eyewitnesses being interviewed that it evacuated from the World Trade Center building. Uh-huh. And one of the women was saying that she believes that there was bombs in the lobby because when she eventually made her way down to the lobby, it was destroyed, the lobby. And she believed that bombs had already gotten off down in the lobby, which would be a little bit interesting since, you know, the planes had impacted the upper part of the building. Yeah. And also, I heard a few other people mention things similar to that as well. And also something else that I thought was interesting as well, I'm not sure if you heard about it, but CNN and also the local NBC station here went to Afghanistan and they showed you some type of military strike taking place. And they announced that the U.S. was retaliating for, you know, Osama bin Laden. That's what I heard. And when C-SPAN 2 went to BBC, BBC was showing that. And they claimed that the United States was attacking Kabul, which is the capital city of Afghanistan. But I don't know if that's true or not. Right. Because I heard that and then supposedly we heard that the U.S. was denying that they are, you know, doing that. And they showed a video and they showed you anti-aircraft fire going up in the air and it looked like cruise missiles landing into certain buildings. And you saw what they said was a fuel dump burning. So I don't know what, you know, who was involved in that, but it was a little bit of a strange timing. That's really, that's really spooky. I mean, if our government's doing it in retaliation for these terrorist attacks, why would they deny it? Right. And why would somebody be showing an attack taking place that's not happening? I mean, this is just really way out there. Right. Right. And also, something I thought was a little bit strange, too, this morning, President Bush came on, this was, I guess, about 9, 10, approximately, that I kind of remember, quarter after 9. And he already announced that this was a terrorist act. And since the thing was so current and so recent, it was just a little bit unusual that, you know, somebody, a public official, would be so confident to acknowledge so quickly that it was some type of terrorist thing. Unless they knew it was going to happen before it happened. And I'm telling you right now, they knew that the Alfred P. Muir Federal Building in Oklahoma City was going to be blown up before it happened. They did nothing to stop it. Right. It was just kind of interesting, because I know there's some federal government employees in the World Trade Center. It would be kind of interesting to find out if a similar thing happened, like, in Oklahoma. You mean, like, they didn't go to work that day? Yeah, right. You know, it would be interesting to see who didn't go to work that day. So, I thought those two incidents were interesting. They didn't even have any. That story was completely dropped about the attack in Afghanistan. And also, the story was completely dropped about people saying that there was bombs in the blob. And also, some of the reporters that were on the street were saying they would feel like explosions and rumbling occasionally. Yeah. And you didn't hear any mention of that either. So, all right, though. Well, all right. I just want to contribute that. Thanks for calling. Okay. Thank you. Bye. Yeah, that's real weird that they would show footage of the capital of Afghanistan being attacked by cruise missiles and airplanes and anti-aircraft batteries shooting guns up into the air and things blowing up and all that kind of stuff. And then everybody denies that they're doing it. What's that all about? Good evening. You're on the air. Yeah, Bill. I've got a couple of things. One, I don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet, but the Japanese Red Army has claimed responsibility for the bombing. Yeah, that's so far out it's pathetic. Why would the Japanese Red Army want to do that? Well, the reason that they, you know, whoever called it NSAID was in retaliation for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Well, now, if that's true, I can understand it. I don't know. I can tell you where that press release is if you're interested. Yeah, where is it? It can be found at IndyMedia.org. At what? Indy, I-N-D-Y, and then Media.org. Okay. I'll check it out when I go out there. By the way, folks, I'm calling it quits at 8 o'clock. I've been on since 9.30 this morning. I think we've discussed just about everything in the world that we can talk about. And I'm going to make it until about 8 p.m. if you're listening at WBCQ. Okay. Thank you.