To be continued... The End The End The End The End When you enjoy, enjoy, enjoy, your fucking peanut butter, you're glad you have enough for another far-for-cutter. The End And those who have information will control those who do not. That's on record. The End Okay, folks. Let's take calls now. And somebody's already on the horn. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello? Nobody there. Okay, the number is 602-333-2174. That's 602-333-2174. Let's talk about these things. Let's find out what you think about what I just read. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello? Well, it looks like we're having some kind of little problems here. I don't know what it is. But, Carolyn, why don't you talk there while I try to figure this out. Take it. You got it. Hello, everyone. I'm not hearing my voice here. You'll have to put the knob up. Right. Here we have my voice coming through now. So, what can we chat about just for a few moments until Bill gets the telephone working? How was the reception around the world for the program that we heard last evening? I understand that in some parts of the country it was a little weak, mostly on the East Coast. Colorado and Michigan seem to be having good luck hearing the program that we had last night with a young man, Bruce, talking about his experience going in to talk to a class of students in Long Island. We hope that you can hear it at another time in case the reception was a little poor in other parts of the country, too. Well, folks, I don't know what's going on here. It looks like we've lost our call-in line, and I don't know why. But keep on calling, and we may figure this out. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello, William. Hello. This is Jeffrey from New Orleans. I'm going to cut my radio off now. I've had to cut you in fast. What I heard tonight, of course, I well understand. I don't know if you know this, but tonight is the 35th anniversary of the John Bush Society's founding in Indianapolis, Indiana. Yes. And we just came from a dinner in New Orleans where one of the people that was talking about how medicine is going to be used as one of the levers to bring us into the new world order. And, of course, the book you read tonight talks a lot about that and that it's trying to claim that information is the key to their getting control over us, etc., etc. But I have noticed that you seem to have... Are you still there? I'm here. Okay. I noticed you seem to have a couple of problems in terms of philosophy that seem to crop up. But one thing you stated on the program earlier on another channel, that you had a problem of knowing when you knew something and when you didn't know something. And I was going to suggest, have you ever read a book called Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology by Ayn Rand? Yes. You've called before, haven't you? Right. I've called on that subject. Yeah. And Ayn Rand is into objectivism and I understand what you're talking about. I know when I know something. I don't understand what you're talking about. I've never said I don't know when I... In relation to your statement concerning the Kennedy assassination that you didn't know whether you were given false material or what. Nobody knows that. Nobody knows that. That's right. I see. And another point I want to bring up was... Wait, wait, hold it. Let me clarify what you're talking about. When I was in the Office of Naval Intelligence, I was shown an awful lot of information. And my capacity on the intelligence briefing team for SYNCPAX League. I already know that everything that they showed me concerning UFOs was disinformation. I know that for a fact. They could have shown me other things that were disinformation. I don't know whether they did or not. And nobody in that position could ever possibly know. Nor could I possibly know now. I see. That's another word. Without some kind of proof. I've already proven the UFO thing is in the hands of governments of the world. People. Okay. And there's another problem I was going to bring up also. And that is in your Behold the Pale Horse. You read it on page three or something like this. A statement in which you claim that the people of the New World Order believe that free market economics is used to level people down to a certain level so they can be controlled. That's correct. Well, I disagree with that completely. Well, you're free to do that. But I'm telling you right now, NAFTA is going to lower the standard of living of all Americans. And it's going to bring up the standard of living of the Mexican people. And it's going to give the people in charge more control over the common man because it's going to eliminate the middle class. If you disagree with that, then you've got to link in it. Well, first of all, NAFTA is free trade. Pardon? NAFTA is not really free trade. NAFTA is the closest thing to free trade that you're ever going to see. And if they broke down all the barriers with all the nations, we'd be in more trouble than you could ever dream of. Yeah, but there's a flaw in it. NAFTA actually allows government-subsidized shipping, such as what the Commonwealth of Independent States and other shipping people do. And that's one of the reasons why your shipping costs are not taken into account when goods are shipped from Japan to the U.S. because they use government-subsidized shipping. But real free trade means trade between private entities using privately controlled, non-governmentally subsidized transportation, etc. I'm not talking about Japan. I'm talking about NAFTA. Right. Well, NAFTA is the same thing. NAFTA has no government-subsidized shipping. But in NAFTA... No, no, no. Let's stick to the facts. You can't talk about NAFTA and bring in Japan subsidizing its shipping. NAFTA has no government-subsidized shipping. But it does have government-subsidized and controlled boards that dictate where industrial plants go, etc., etc. No, it does not. It has nothing to do with the government. They are independent boards that can actually overrule governments. Right. And they can impose more rules than the governments actually have. In fact, one of the objections to NAFTA is that they can put in stronger environmental regulations than we have now. Possibly. Yes. And the point I'm trying to get at is that real free trade doesn't have those kinds of super-governmental boards at all. Real free trade would do exactly the same thing. The only thing that has created a middle class in this country was our ability in the past to protect ourselves from what's going to happen with this NAFTA thing. And with any kind of a free trade. You can't have free trade in a world where there is a disparity in the standard of living between peoples and workers. For instance, if we have a standard of living where we pay our average laborer $10 an hour, and we're dealing with a country where they pay their average laborer $0.50 an hour, it is going to result in the lowering of the standard wage in this country and the lowering of the standard of living in this country. It will bring up the standard of living and the wage in the other country until we meet somewhere in between. And it is not in our best interest to do that. But there's a hidden joke over there, too, because we have an arbitrary minimum wage that's set by government, and that's been put in there to force wages above a certain level, which is why Americans don't do certain jobs these days. Don't you understand what that does, though? It will just make American companies go down to Mexico where they can pay the Mexican laborer $0.50 an hour, and American laborers up here will be standing in long lines to collect their below-minimum wage in their unemployment check. Which is why we should get rid of the minimum wage and the antitrust laws to start with. No, which is why we should close our borders and say, screw you to the rest of the world until they can bring their standard of living up on their own. Well, we tried that in 1890 with Benjamin. No, we didn't. No, no, no. I've heard all this liberal bullshit, and that's a lie. We've never done that in our history. Well, I was not helping on the Civil War. I'm sure you remember the tarot. We have never done that in our history, and that had nothing to do with the Civil War. Well, it laid one of the bases for it. I know that. That's what the liberals would like for everybody to believe. They've also been touting the fact that the Great Depression in the 20s and 30s was caused by free trade, and that also is a lie. That is a lie, and Adrian Monteau and also Alan Greenspan can back that up, too. Well, on the other hand, I'm glad I called you up on this, and I do appreciate all the efforts you've put in, especially after last Friday night. And I say keep up the good work even when we do disagree on these matters. Well, disagreement is healthy. There's nothing wrong with that, and I welcome anyone to disagree. There is no requirement that anybody agree with me anywhere at any time. There is a requirement that you learn to think. Right. And that you be polite when you call, and you can argue and question me all you want to as long as you meet those two criteria. And I believe that you do think. But I think that you should rethink your position on free trade. Thank you for calling. Thank you. 602-333-2174 is the number, folks. And good evening. You're on the air. Hello. Well, it looks like we're having intermittent phone troubles. I wonder what that's all about. Let's try it again. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello. How are you doing? Hello. Turn your radio down, please. I did. I didn't expect to get the answer that quick. Well, somebody else was on, but they weren't on. I don't know if people are hanging up. It could be. You know, sometimes the little children out there that have their full diapers want to play games. I don't know if that's what's happening or not. What can we do for you? Well, I was just kind of curious if you could give me some information on something called 7272 about disarmament. 7272? Yes. You mean 7277? What order did President Kennedy sign in relation, you know, with the Brady Bill and Reno now talking about licensing? You're talking about State Department publication 7277. Kennedy did not sign it. It was published by the State Department. But it is part of the goal of the disarmament agency and the disarming of all nations and all peoples, combining the military forces of Russia and the United States under the United Nations to be the police force of the world. We are now in stage 2 of that plan. When do we go to stage 3? It could be tomorrow, for all I know, but it's going to be soon. I don't think they can go to stage 3 until they disarm the American people, and that is at such an escalated endeavor right now that I can foresee serious conflicts in this country in 1994 over disarming the American people, and I mean shooting. Do you know anything about the National Guard training house-to-house search and seizures? All the military is. Okay. What do you know about the Multi-Jurisdictional Task Force? That was promulgated in Public Law 100-690, which is the whole chapter in my book. It's just what it says, a multi-jurisdictional task force. It's a combination of local and federal and state law enforcement and sometimes military in the guise of suppressing drugs coming into this country. But its real purpose is to form an infrastructure for a state police, or I should say a federal police, which will manifest itself sometime within the next few years. Now, have you heard of Jack McClellan? Yes. He discusses the MJTF, and there's a third factor in there, and that is that they're going to bring the gangs into it and have them using for detention centers, which we call those the places out in the big nowhere that the airline pilots find every now and then. Well, could be. I wouldn't doubt it. There is no proof of that. I will tell you that right now. There's no proof whatsoever for that allegation. But I wouldn't doubt it. If I was a member of law enforcement, knowing what was coming, I wouldn't want to go against American patriots, and it might be in my best interest to con some stupid gang members into putting on a uniform and being the front-line troops so that they could get killed so that I could hide behind them and kill you. Thank you very much for your time. You're welcome. Number 602-333-2174. While we're on this subject, he mentioned Jack McClellan, and that brought up something that happened last night, which I want to clarify. After the show last night, Mean called, and I know most of you don't know who she is and probably never will, but she's a patriot. She's a very intelligent woman, very smart. She calls, and we talk from time to time. And she thought that maybe I might have given out the wrong impression last night when someone called and asked about Don McIlvaney. And I said that Don McIlvaney used to work for the Central Intelligence Agency. I then stated that there are no ex-intelligence officers. And I thought I made it very clear. Some of you may have misunderstood me. I then said if he was an officer, which I don't know whether he was or not. That's up for you to figure out because I'm, to tell you the truth, not really interested. But I was in no way implying that Don McIlvaney works for the CIA. I know that he did. I know that if he was an officer, that he probably still does. If he's not an officer, then that's up for you guys to figure out. I have had no dealings with Don McIlvaney other than to find out why he was in his newsletter for many years saying that all the problems in the world are caused by the Soviet Union. And that's just not true, folks. Most of the problems in the world have been caused by Washington, D.C., and London. And the Vatican in Rome. Good evening. You're on the air. While we're waiting here, I was wondering if I could ask a question as if I were a caller, Bill. I remember hearing something about the Prohibition era and the fact that it was a cover-up for establishing a drug network in the country. No. Do you know anything? Drugs were common in this country, and they were outlawed. Drugs were totally outlawed in this country. And then Prohibition was not brought on to create anything, although it did. It created the mafia. But Prohibition was the result of religious organizations and largely women's groups who insisted that alcohol be made illegal. And it's going to be here. And all you do is create crime networks. You create full prisons and all kinds of things. The answer to drugs is to legalize it. And I know that a lot of you out there feel strongly against that. But I'm telling you right now, it would decrease crime in this country by 50% overnight if you would do it. And treat those people who are sick like sick people should be treated. And stop trying to play God. Good evening. You're on the air. Yes, Grover. Hello. Hello. Oh, I'm from Kentucky. My first time on. I've been listening to Tom Valentine, and I seem to go to sleep. God, I hope I don't put you to sleep. No, no, no. I didn't mean that in that sense. It's just that I started listening about 9 o'clock, and about 12. Yeah, it gets pretty late, doesn't it? Yeah. When I plugged my earphones back in, you were quoting from a book. And I'd love to have the title of that book. Well, it's not a book. It's a magazine. The title of the magazine is Wired, and it's the November 1993 issue. In fact, it's the first monthly issue ever. It's not the first issue of the magazine. It used to come out quarterly or something like that. But this is the first monthly issue. It's called Wired, and you should be able to find it on any large, well-stocked newsstand. Gosh, that's hard in this country. I'm in Central Kentucky. I drive to Louisville to get books to what it's worth looking at. Yeah, I understand what you mean. I really like your line of thinking and line of talk. I can understand that you don't jump on one view and on one thing. Just harp, harp, harp. And I love that. I like the way you handle that guy while I go. I'll be a listener for a while. I'm a right winger. I have some liberal views. But what's beginning to show up on the silver screen in TV is really worrying me. And I can't believe that on news media, the CF Army can put that bigger foam on them. But definitely can. I haven't heard anything about the Weaver case in this area. I haven't heard anything about Waco except from the Valentine show. I don't hear anything about what was going on behind closed doors in committee meetings or anything else in the papers or on TV. Well, you've really missed out because we not only covered the Weaver case, but we read the entire defense brief for the defense that was presented in court over the year. I went to Waco and covered Waco on scene. All of the breaking stories about Waco appeared on only two radio programs, mine and Ron Engelman's show in Dallas. And those were the only two shows for a long time that told any truth about Waco, Texas. So you just stay tuned to the hour of the time, and I think you'll find that you'll start getting what you've been lacking. I was in Montana a year before last when Bo Gratz was running for president. We call him Bobo Gritz around here. Bobo Gritz. Bobo Gritz, yeah. I was a very frustrated Republican because I had been the county campaign chairman for Bush and Hopkins and our local senator, Mitch McConnell. We call him Snitch McConnell. Uh-huh. And I got out west, and once you cross the Mississippi, the mindset is altogether different. I hadn't been out west in some time. I got quite an education. And it looks like I keep on getting educated. I'm a radio operator, and I've been inactive for about five years. Uh-huh. Things have changed. Gosh, I've got to get out of the dark ages here. Things are changing so fast that by the end of next year, by January 1, 1995, I doubt if anybody will recognize this country as the United States of America as it was 20 years ago. I'm so positive of what you just said. I'm almost afraid to make this statement on the air. I was talking to a coin exchange dealer today. Uh-huh. Over the weekend, I had made a decision to purchase some, some, uh, coins. And, uh, I made the comment that I was a little bit nervous. And, uh, he said to the back, we have had three people today who have felt the same way. Now, I live in a very rural area, and I live in a very liberal area. And when rumors start here, we're the last given. I mean, Kentucky's in the middle of this country almost in a certain sense. We're, we're not too backwards yet, but, uh, gosh, we don't get anything compared to what you do out west. And I'm surprised. I really am. I'm, I'm taken back. It's, uh, it's coming down a lot quicker than I ever thought. I thought my kids may see, in their middle age, I thought they may see a restructuring of government. And, uh, one more in the world, but it looks like I'm going to live to see it. Yeah, and that's one of the problems, you see, because there are many of us who have been warning the American people for many years. And what I've heard from a lot of people is, well, I'm not going to be alive when it happens, so I'm not going to worry about it. And that attitude has propelled us into it when we should have been doing things to stop it. Years and years ago, when it would have been very easy, now it's almost impossible. And I'm going to tell you right now, if it's not done pretty soon, the blood's going to flow in the streets of America, because there are many, many men and women out there who will not ever accept the destruction of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and under no conditions will consent to be disarmed. I won't. I will not. I will not. So one of the purposes of this program is to wake the sheeple, empower the people, try to get them moving, so that we can do something before it comes to that. I don't want to see Americans killing Americans. I had almost got a biweekly article in our little down paper here until I came out with a kind of a, how I thought politics was looking up, and I called our two senators traitors, and I had a letter from the attorney general who refused to help me. And I was more or less shaking some thought, trying to provoke some thought. And I lost all rights to my article. I don't expect to ever be seen in the paper again or do anything else. Yeah, that's what happens. And that's all right, because I'm going to keep trying. I do what I can do. And you know what scares me from talking to two people today that I feel very comfortable with in talking about these issues? And I'm a little hesitant to talk here now because of being on radio and who's listening. Well, you better talk here because this is the only radio station that will let you say what you're going to say. Go ahead. Well, I think the powers that be on the view or order thing have put the process into gear. And I think the majority of the people is taking the ball and running with it for them. It's almost getting ahead of them. That's right. That's my fear. And you know, I've got very intelligent people to tell me, and I've never seen this in writing, and I've never seen it, to tell me that the majority is usually always wrong. You couldn't be more right on the truth if you tried. The majority of people are ignorant. The majority of the people are stupid. The majority of the people are what I call sheeple, and they usually do what they're told to do without thinking too much about it. And if they look around and they've got a TV in every room and there's a chicken in the pot, they pretty much don't care what happens. And you can tell that by what would happen in your town if you wrote 100 bad checks. You'd be in jail, wouldn't you? Roger. Well, most of the Congress wrote 100 or more bad checks, and they're still in Congress, reelected by their constituents who would have put you in jail in your hometown. Now, that ought to tell you something. To show you how people think, about just six months ago, when Rush Limbaugh really got popular in this area, it scared me. And I wrote a letter to the editor. I said, I think Rush is a Judas cult. Well, our editor didn't understand Judas cult, so he puts in the letter, a Jewish cult. Oh, he did that intentionally. He did that intentionally to make you look anti-Semitic. Yeah. And you ought to go and poke that sucker right where it counts. Well, if he'd have done that to me, I'll tell you, I'd have been right there on his doorstep when he walked out of his office. He never planted my retractions. No. No, he wants to make you look like a rabid, insane, right-wing, radical, anti-Semitic racist. They do it all over this country. I'm getting sick and tired of it. And all of you people out there better start doing something about these stinking traitors that are sitting in your newspaper offices. It's all you are. It's all you are. I could not believe that the media, as big as, oh, how righteous we are people, I've been a... I've heard us into this. I just can't look. I'm mad at it myself. I'm really mad at myself. Well, we should all be mad at ourselves. Listen, you've been on an awful long time, and it's way past our policy, so I've got to let you go. I want to thank you for calling. Oh, I thank you. Looks like I'm going to be up late every night. Okay. Take care of my people. Thank you very much. Yeah, I just can't. That makes me so angry when I hear something like that. Somebody intentionally, intentionally does that to make somebody look like they're anti. And it happens always. It's happened to me so many times, I can't even count it. Oh, by the way, I want to thank those of you who wrote Omni Magazine and gave them a piece of your mind. And you'll also notice they did not print even one of your letters. Good evening. You're on the air. Mr. Cooper. Yes. I've heard you mention that you're writing a new book. Yes. Do you know when that will be out? Don't even ask. Okay. It'll be out when it's out. Let's see. Are you going to have a chapter in there about the IRS? Yes. No. I've covered the IRS as much as I'm going to cover it. If everybody out there doesn't understand it, then that's just too damn bad. I'm tired of repeating myself. And I'm tired of knocking against wooden heads. Okay. I've said everything there is to say. Phil Marsh has said everything there is to say. There's people all over this country trying to educate people. And they still won't get educated. By the way, folks, Philip Marsh was arrested. Philip and Marlene Marsh were arrested. There used to be the Pilot Connection. Now it's the Liberty Foundation. They were arrested. Their offices were raided. Not by the IRS. Not by the police. Not by the sheriff. Guess who? The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms raided the Liberty Foundation, took every scrap of furniture, every piece of paper, arrested Philip and Marlene Marsh and a whole bunch of other people. None of them were charged on tax-related charges. They're all bullshit charges. And they always do this right at the end of the year, every single year, right before tax time, to scare all the rest of you sheeple into not untaxing yourselves. Okay. I want you to know I appreciate your show. Thank you. And I respect you as a person. And that was the only question I had. Okay. Thank you for calling. Thank you. 602-333-2174. Remember, folks, they did the same thing to Philip Marsh and the Pilot Connection last year right at this same time. And the sheep will still fall for it. Oh, I can't untax. Look what happened. I guarantee you that they're all little bitty charges and none of them will stick. And even if they did, it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans. It has nothing to do with taxes. Good evening. You're on the air. Hello, William. Hello. This is my animal calling. And the reason I brought up my city was that we were mentioned just recently in the news about violence down here. Yeah, you're in the war zone, according to the liberal press. Well, it occurred to me today, if all of the women and men that I saw on the news reports that were in Sarajevo, that were running from snipers, if they had held up and shot back, they wouldn't have had to run anymore. That's right. That's right. And lately, all I've been hearing is gun control, gun control, instead of criminal control, criminal control. Now, you're beating a dead horse. We've talked about this many times. Everybody out there has heard this over and over again. They all know that it's a ruse and that the gun control won't work and it won't stop the criminals and it won't stop murder and it won't stop crime. But it's a scare tactic. Well, no. What we need to do is stop talking about it. It doesn't do any good to talk about it anymore. We've all talked about it until we're blue in the face. Everybody's heard it. Everybody knows it. Nobody's doing anything about it. Okay, then. You need to kick some ass in Washington, D.C. Well, then, I'll just say in clothing that the two shows where the CAGGI members were your guests were dynamite. Well, thank you. Yeah, they are a fantastic couple of young men and they're two other partners, too. Now, that one crew, Mark and Bark. Mark and Bark, yeah. They hauled their butts all the way over from Los Angeles, I understand, to Washington. Yes, they did. That was for Project 93. That's right. That was great. And last night, now, this fellow, you know, he showed a lot of guts, the one that was at the university. Yes. And he showed a lot of guts on what he had to say to people that weren't even receptive. Oh, no. They were rabid Marxists. And maybe hadn't had a clue that actual masons and actual illuminati and actual secret societies, they're not just secrets for exclusivity. They've got other deals that they want to do. They want to do it in an underhanded way to get it over. That's right. Get over on us. Yeah. And if they do it underhanded, they can get it over on us. And it seems to me that all of our leaders lately, from Kennedy, that would be like, you know, Nixon and the presidents and a lot of the Congress since then, have all been this group that you hear about. I remember the first show I heard about on the hour of the time. It was surprising to me, but I listened through on it. And it was actually George Bush's genealogy. Yes. And I didn't understand it at first, and then it came to me. Well, now you should. Well, by now I do. But, yes, I've been listening since then, except after the arson. And I didn't come back until July. A friend of mine said that you were back on. And I started listening all over again. And then right then, it was about the time he changed signals again. He said you left him babbling. He's a good old boy. I mean, he really, he knew about Mason's, but he was like me. He said, well, they're a fraternal bunch. And the key, their carrot is for everyday guys, it aids them in their business dealings. In other words, one Mason will trade with another Mason. What they do is they make it exclusive. If you're in business in a town that is largely Freemason, you're out of business. Unless you're with them. That's right. If you don't join the lodge, you're out. Your friend one time, I've heard you say this once or twice, he said that his dad told him. Now, this was cold-blooded. But his dad said, if you're not one of us, you are nothing. That's right. Now, I was wondering if, I've heard this another expression all the time. But it seems like they're saying the same thing in code, but using different terms. If you're not with us, you're against us. That's right. Now, I wonder if that's the same. That's exactly what they're saying. Well, you see, now, that's not, well, but it's not so. Actually, they make it so by calling us the profane ones. And actually, we're just regular Christian folks. I had another opinion about that Omni, too. At the time you spoke about that, I think that if anybody's on Worldwide Christian Radio, anybody that's ignorant would automatically say, well, Worldwide Christian Radio, they're anti-Semitic to start with. No, that's not true. They're honest, you know. That is not true. It isn't true. I know that. That is not true. Christ never preached anti-anything. Exactly. So, they want to use that in their own mind. If they disagree with you, too, discredit you. Now, me, nobody's ever mentioned that to me. I'm no writer. I couldn't write my way out of a paper bag. But that's what I thought maybe Omni and a lot of these other groups that would call. And I've seen them do that. My anti-Semitic friend is one of the terms that they'll call people down here. At the slider's provocation, or no provocation at all, all you have to do is mention anything about Jewish or Israel, that you disagree with them. And automatically, if the host is a Jewish guy, he'll say to you, well, yes, my anti-Semitic friend. And they'll hang up on you and all of that kind of a thing. And I've seen that what you said about that is true. They do. A lot of the people will do that and discredit you and make you look a fool about it. When the last thing on your mind was to do that, maybe you were just talking a point in time. The only reason it works is because most of the people are so stupid that they believe those things without checking into it. Don't want to be politically incorrect is another way to go. That's right. So, I'll get going now. Okay. Thanks for calling. Thank you. Bye-bye. I love Baco. It's... I love Baco. It's rich in chocolate tea. Chocolate flavored Baco. It's mighty good for me. Mama puts it in my milk for extra energy. Baco gives me iron and sunshine vitamin D. Oh, I love Baco. It's a nice drink for me. Good evening. You're on the air. Yes? Yes, you're on the air. Hey, I got you on the air. Oh, this is very interesting. This is the first time I've ever been able to get in on this program. Talk to me. All right. You were talking about possibly the problems that are going to be coming down in the next year or two. Yes. Ninety-four is going to be a big year. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is what I see that they'll probably try to do. It'll have to do with martial law. Because with the laws that are on the books, if they declare martial law, it'll automatically suspend the Constitution for five years. They almost did it during the Gulf War, desert storm. They were like within two votes. They don't have to declare martial law. All they have to do is declare a national emergency. Yes. But with the national emergency, that'll bring in the martial law. Not necessarily. They've declared several national emergencies in the last few years and it hasn't brought martial law. Yes, but one old, I even forgot exactly what the number of it was. It was put in the last part of the Carter administration, first part of the Reagan administration. There's a whole chapter in my book. It's called FEMA, Federal Emergency Management Act. All the executive orders were in there. And by the way, those have all been superseded by executive orders that Reagan and Bush wrote and signed. And I imagine Carter will probably come out with some of his own, too. These are always changing all the time. But they need an excuse to declare martial law. And they're trying to create situations around the country. And I believe Waco was one of those situations. Yes, and I think they're using what is being portrayed as the fringe crazy element with the guns. They're trying to use this small percentage of people in order to bolster their point of view that they need some sort of national emergency in order to physically take the guns away from the people. My friend, it's my contention that they create that small fringe of people who go around shooting 16 or 17 people on a subway or blowing away 10 people in a McDonald's or the situation in Waco, Texas. As we found out that the Seventh-day Adventist Church used to supply volunteers for CIA mind control experiments. And Mark Breaux and Vernon Howell were both members of the Seventh-day Adventist Church for many years before they broke off and went into the Branch Davidians. Well, the Bulgarians and the Romanians got it down to an art of where they could take an individual in and completely recreate an identity for the individual. Take him in, put him through psychological stress with drugs and with certain types of... By the way, all that stuff is in my book, folks. If you'd have got my book a few years ago, you'd be way ahead of the game right now. Yeah. But I wouldn't be surprised if they don't create a few crazies and let them loose. You were talking about that in a few years you'd be able to look back and it wouldn't be the same 20 years ago. I said at the end of next year. I think it's already reached their point right now. Well, not necessarily. I mean, you can still recognize the United States of America. But I think by the end of next year, there won't be any recognition of this country as it once was 20 years ago. Yeah. Well... Listen, we're out of time. I hate to cut you off, but I've got no more time to give you. So I want to thank you for calling. And for everybody out there listening, good night. Good night. And God bless you all. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night. Thank you. Thank you.