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The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End & The End The End The End Jesus Jennifer Steve�� absolutamente Broadwayedes in the turning nominations they know that uh... about them you know they can't call me some wild radical out of the idaho or montana hills and uh... so because i made this uh... people who know i am watching the show and the court in my god i had no idea this was going on in america i had no idea and we're selling thousands and thousands of these videos and uh... what i've done is actually uh... just a few days ago i finished shooting an infomercial which is going to be on television all over america and that that infomercials explain to americans what's happening in this country and that's what the infomercial they can order the video and i think what i think i see a really bright light at the end of the tunnel i think i found a way to educate america and to uh... uh... take back our country and to uh... stop the hemorrhaging that's going on you know the manatelle is actually a three three uh... front plan uh... the first place that the video at everybody i can so we can educate people and even people who are knowledgeable who see the video love it will cry during it they get a raise uh... and they show it to other people who are who are knowledgeable and because of my background who i am which helps them a lot to give me credibility uh... people really view the video as a real piece of work and something that they can trust and so they see what i was saying what the government's doing uh... i can we convert lots of people so it's a great tool in that sense and uh... the second stage of what we're going to do after educating people is to put a tourniquet on the government you know if you're bleeding you put a tourniquet on and what we're going to do is we're going to stop these laws from being passed but we're doing is we started what the what i call the mad as hell alert freedom alert and what that's doing uh... which other people up and we have ten fifteen twenty million people become a part of this and we said everybody what i call the mad as hell directory and the directory is going to be uh... directly every congressman's uh... phone number fax number email number address everybody in the cabinet every time they try to test some unlawful legislation or some totalitarian legislation uh... with a fact that overnight ten fifteen twenty million people let them know that this is the truth of the court on this building is right at this and those ten to fifteen twenty million people go to the directory but the appropriate congressman's phone number fax number email number i'm looking to bombard them with millions and millions and millions of faxes and uh... from people from all walks of life white black jew christian you know that it shows everybody and and no one no one's ever done this before and and and massive quantities you know and having people are just christian or just jewish black or just you know it's everybody's it's what america's is built on freedom of speech freedom of religion and the right to be but different will be free and uh... and uh... and what was we stop these laws from being passed the first that they take all this money and get an example of campaigns and put new people into washington get rid of those guys in washington so the first two steps lower active on now is getting the video out there so people can see it and enjoy themselves and educate other people because it's really entertaining and then the next step is going to be the fax people all over the country let them know every time something happens that we don't want the past we're going to stop it we're going to bombard them with protests peaceful protests but we're going to stop them from doing what they're doing and when they get five ten fifteen twenty million faxes and emails uh... they have to pay attention they can't ignore that and uh... and that's the plan and it's working like gangbusters i did a uh... i went to reno the other day and uh... when i went to reno hold on just a minute there i got i got i got to ask you a couple questions uh... number one you say nobody's ever done that but then i've got to disagree with that because people have been doing that for many years so i meant i meant the massive quantities that i'm doing it you know well i think they have been they i mean they haven't all been in one organization but they have done it in massive quantities and not just from one group i'm aware i'm aware that when national went on and when and when and when gat went on that that the uh... washington was swamped with lots and lots of calls and faxes but what i'm telling you what's never gone on is that a group of people under one roof white people black people christian people jewish people jewish people people from all races getting together and saying we're not going to take this crap anymore and we're going to i'm going to stop you guys and have 10 15 20 million faxes i've never heard that ever happening uh... go ahead go hold on um... it was everybody with nafta and gat it wasn't just uh... so-called right wing or or the angry white male it was blacks it was whites it was jews it was it was everybody it was all different religions nobody wanted gat or nafta i was that was a strip of i mean from my point of view for my it was a blue collar uh... thing that the laborers went through the people who are workers fought against but not the people that the higher echelons and uh... i think that what what matters hell is doing is getting people rich poor students and we're getting people from everywhere and i've never seen it happen before like this when you see the people that are joining up with us who think liberals conservatives i mean uh... when when i explain to liberals what's going on uh... they say this can't be happening i say it is and all of a sudden they're not so liberal anymore yeah but aaron i've heard this before we did this with the constitution party and it was happening with the constitution party we had liberals we had right wing we had blacks we had jews we had whites we had the native american indians we had orientals we had all different religions and at the end of the slightest sight of of any opposition or any kind of dissension it just melted away how are you going to prevent that from happening again i can only tell you that i was obviously you know i started the constitution party and i saw what that was and i started this and i see what this is and it's nothing alike there's nothing there's nothing similar about it and the scope and the kind of response and the kind of people coming into it it's just a whole different ballgame it's much much uh... greater and diverse and uh... she's not even close maybe because the video is the way to explain to people what's going on but there's no comparison from what i mean i was there for both and i can tell you that's just not just just not accurate what you're saying the mad as hell is much much broader much much bigger and much much stronger than anything i would do with the constitution party now what do you mean by bigger and stronger what are you talking about i mean by bigger is there are many many more people joining on you know much bigger numbers and uh... in terms of stronger the strength of the people joining this thing like i said i was going to reno the other day and uh... when i went to reno it was pandemonium the excitement uh... i just never felt that before with the constitution party the constitution party was a version of the thing that was just starting but mad as hell it was like this uh... an excitement if you would have been in reno the people were like screaming and jumping and cheering and it was like the rolling stones arrived or something i can't i don't know how to explain it except to say i had never experienced anything like it before in my life and uh... now wait a minute you produce some of the biggest rock groups in america you must have seen something like that before in your life i never experienced it i didn't say i'd never seen it uh-oh i never experienced it for me personally oh you mean personally okay yes yeah and uh... and that's why i said it reminded me of mcjaggin things i had seen uh-huh i'd never personally experienced it and i swear i'd never experienced it with the constitution party and uh... what i see happening here is something much much bigger and much much greater than the constitution party ever was uh... and that and i i i i see the constitution party as being a vehicle uh... for potential uh... when it's time to get the people out of washington and the first and second phase are complete i i'm hopeful that the constitution party would be a possible way to uh... help change government i don't think this is the last free election we're having this country and if we don't do something in this election it's all over that's what i believe based upon all my research and all my studies and all the years i've been involved in this if you're right i don't i certainly want to argue that point with you i don't have control of that but i do know that what's happening with mad as hell is happening so fast that once it hits the airwaves on television uh... it's going to be in the millions this is the thing is everybody who sees it and everybody who hears about it they're just signing on in droves i can't it's hard to expect i'm going to las vegas monday night to speak and uh... they're calling it to tell me they're having mad they expect massive crowds coming and uh... i don't think so i certainly hope you're right but i've never experienced a couple of days you know i've had a pretty good nose the constitution party was always a struggle you know getting it going and getting people cooked on it was a struggle you know uh... this is not this is like it's just coming on like like flies like people just jumping on board and it's a whole different feeling and attitude and uh... way of being looked at i i think i said i'd have experienced what happened to me in reno before and uh... and when i'm here and when the corner calls i'm getting and the amount of calls and the letters and the people who are encouraged to see a real plan to win and change things in this country uh... they're very excited and it's good and whereas the constitution party never reached out into the mainstream of people liberals and other people oh no that's not true aaron that that is not true at all the constitution party was attracting people from all races all religions all walks of life and both sides of the political spectrum bill you know it was not in quantities like i'm not talking quantities but you're saying it didn't happen and i'm telling you it did you're saying a few liberals are signing on that's one thing but i'm saying i'm talking about something bigger than that i'm saying that you're talking about numbers so you can't say that this wasn't happening with the constitution party because it was what i'm saying to you is this is reaching far deeper into the liberal establishment no what you're doing is you're just getting more numbers because you're not presenting them with a with a with a uh... thing that they've got to commit to some kind of a political position i agree with that yeah so the thing is this though there's a video now that they can see they're not just getting a piece of paper you know here's the constitution party on this platform i made a video that's 90 minutes long that that's really exciting people you know i used all my production skills to make it and people see it and they get excited they understand it better than just a flat piece of paper and i'm saying it was reaching far deeper and getting more people involved than i have been you know i could ever imagine and i'm telling you when it hits the television airwaves well i can understand how i could do that without making a political commitment because i was extremely disappointed and very angry when i when i would discover people uh... who professed to be constitutionists and to be uh... firmly committed to supporting and protecting and defending the constitution for the united states of america who would not join a political party that had the constitution for the united states of america as its platform for restoration of republican government in this country yes i agree with that and also that that when i was involved with the constitution party i kept getting things you know from uh... christian organizations who wouldn't join up because of the stand and that was anyone joining with other people and now i find that totally changed i i'm finding that what i'm doing that all these christian organizations are saying that we don't care whether people are christian or jew or anyone we just want to get together and join together to fight the beast where before when the constitution party started that was i found a lot of difficulty and a lot of a lot of groups willing to merge together and i find that that resistance changing and and and and for the most part uh... those walls have come down and i find people join together much more easily now than i did then and uh... i'm very thankful for him happy for it and maybe it's a result of the video or maybe people have evolved more since then but it is about finding a whole different attitude people saying you know we have the the piece we're fighting is totalitarianism in a police state and whether you're fighting the land rights battle the irs battle of the education battle whatever battle you're fighting that's some of the tentacles but it all falls into totalitarianism yes and they all know that if you want to beat totalitarianism you have to join together christians alone can't do it jews alone can't do it blacks alone can't do it and it takes all people from all kinds to come here and say we're going to stand as americans from all walks of life and tell the tell the government we're not going to stand for this anymore and i'm not going to take it anymore and that's what it takes to win and people are realizing it and they're getting behind it and they're saying enough of this crap enough of this division you know enough of this uh... divide and conquer no more of the splintering of groups we're going to come together and i see it everywhere i go now and i'm so encouraged i mean it's the one thing that's giving me hope because it's the one thing people are realizing that if everybody comes together to win they'll win the big battle that's the big battle that has to be won i got another question for you sure you say you're going to sit out millions ten twenty millions of faxes who's going to pay for these phone bills we are how because people are going to sign up and join on and pay money to join and that's how we pay for it it's a business that's how it's going to be done well it's got to be done there's no other way you understand i got to ask all these questions oh of course that's what it's for that's i mean people have to know that it takes money to do this and that if you're going to send out all these faxes and all these letters and these videos it takes money and people won't and it's not that much money you know so people want to do it what kind of money are we talking about well the way we're doing it is going to cost uh twenty dollars to buy the video and five dollars a month for the fax and newsletter service oh okay so they're subscribing to this yes definitely okay okay absolutely because i knew that as soon as this broadcast was over somebody would call me and say are you crazy they can't send out fifteen twenty million faxes who's going to pay for that of course you can everybody that's good that everybody understands that yeah you know with five dollars a month is nothing you know if you don't want to spend five dollars a month or a dollar a week to be a free person and everybody to come together then you're a fool or you're stupid and stop complaining go to sleep and wake up on a police date yeah that's what i've been telling them for years you know i mean it's nothing it's it's it's ridiculous and and what makes it work is that millions and millions of us come together to do it so i mean tonight what we're doing it in 1995 you get the video you get the man of hell directory you get the bumper sticker and a button you know for 1995 how much cheaper can you do it and then for five dollars a month you get the monthly newsletter and the fax service and then when you get the and every time they try to test it but we fact out these people they go to the directory and then they fax washington they call washington i mean it's it's wonderful it's a wonderful plan and it's a way for millions of people to be heard it empowers people because we're going to get to do it together at the same time you know and it's uh i'm telling you people are so excited by it and uh i'm really thrilled i really feel right here i really see a way to win and uh if we get if we get all these millions of people together and i think it's happening and the infomercials at the airwaves and i'm on television across america telling people and the infomercial by the way is great people are going to be rocked or people at home watching this stuff on television are going to be rocked by what they see and where's that going to be shown around three weeks two months it'll be on the air on where all over television all over america yeah but a lot excuse me on cbs abc mbc or all of them or what the cable stations broadcast they will be buying time we're just buying time all over the country we pay for the time uh-huh it's not being broadcast for free it's time that i buy you understand i buy the time i put it on the air yeah i know aaron but people are going to want to know where it's going to be seen because if you've got a hundred cable channels on your cable system and you tell them in three months to watch for this nobody's going to be sitting there flipping through a hundred channels looking for an infomercial excuse me bill you got to tell them where it's at bill excuse me bill i said three weeks not three months and the other thing i said to you i haven't i do not know exactly the station that's going to be on yet we're in the middle of buying those times now okay you know so uh you know that it's going to be on so much that you if you watch tv you're not going to miss it it may take a little channel surfing at the beginning but it's going to be there folks and it's going to be on uh major stations across america you know is there going to be a point in time when you will know what channel what cable systems and what channels it will be on absolutely i'll probably know about a week and a half when you do that can you give it to me so i can put that out on the air no question about it okay no question about it easy that's easy great that's easy i know we're starting out in 50 cities i know we have a plan for 50 cities across america and we're negotiating with the different stations now so that's uh that's probably the reason why i don't have the definitive yet because we're in negotiations trying to buy the time at most reasonable prices you know when you buy time on television it's not a simple deal what station are you on it's not like going on the bill cooper show you know what i mean it's like you you got to negotiate 50 different people 50 different places and buy time it's a lot of work and it's just not quite ready yet but it will be on in three weeks to a month you know we have a tremendous uh satellite listenership of this broadcast and for you to be on all of those cable uh systems across the country you're probably going to be uh on a satellite so if you could also let me know what satellite and what transponder uh that will be tremendously helpful also everything you know i know secrets it's all there just get it let's get it out there to everybody let's just get it out there to everybody anybody listening if you want to get involved you want you want to sign up you just write write us uh to uh man as hell p.o box 27740 las vegas nevada 89126 and put a check in the mail for 20 bucks and we'll get the video out to you right away and with the video we'll send you a a a a a flyer that allows you to sign for the fax service if you wish and uh you come join us i'm telling you something you're gonna be really happy you did this thing is really big time and um i'll give out the uh address again in a little while so get a piece of paper and a pencil and i promise you from the bottom of my heart you'll be very very happy to see the video and to become a part of what we're trying to do here i promise you that how many people have already joined there uh let's put this way it's in the thousands and it hasn't even been advertised yet just word of mouth is this people who bought videos or who have actually subscribed to the uh people who bought videos and subscribe both and and once it hits the infomercial once the infomercial starts then it's it's all going to be part of the same package uh-huh you can't do one or the other the reason we can buy the video now is because i was first trying it out to see if it's going to be successful i was just selling the video to see if people would like it or not you know i was like field testing it and so uh the response has been so huge that this is what's made us realize what we had here we had a bull by the horns and uh and we're going all the way with it okay don't go away i'm here we'll be right back folks right after this series of stuff we gotta do i see trees of green red green I see them blue, fucking you. 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You'll be glad that you did. Hi, everybody. I'm Archie Bell with a thrills of Houston Texas. We don't only sing, but we dance. This is going to be one. In Houston, we just brought a new jam called the Tighten Up. This is the music we tighten up with. First, first, tighten up on the drum. Come on now, drum. You want to sign it up for me now. Oh, yeah. Sign up on that bass now. Sign it up. Yeah. Now let's get some for me. Oh, yeah. Well, that's not what I intended to play, but the CD player is really acting up. You punch the button that's supposed to play, and you hear this loud bang, and a pop, and something else plays. Well, Aaron, why don't you tell us about the video? What's on the video? Well, the video is basically it's me on the video, and I do a performance, and I tell people what's happening in America. We have Senator Don Rogers on the video. We have Charlie Dukes on the video, Dr. Julian Whitaker talking about cancer cures. We have a whole piece about Donald Scott. And how he was murdered, and what the government did to Donald Scott. This is the video that you sent me? Yeah. Same one. I don't know if you had the 90 or the half-hour version, but on the 90-minute version, the one was selling. I first did a 30-minute promo version, which you may have gotten first. I don't know if you had the 90 or not, but on the 90-minute version, one that's being marked the soul today. I've got to tell you right now, I didn't know you had Charlie Duke on there. After what Charlie Duke did to the Constitution Party, I cannot support him in any way. Well, you don't know. He's only going to have to. You know, he doesn't have to say his piece and say what he thinks. He may be, but I can't support it. Oh, you don't have to support it. It's just a question of whether he's saying what he wants to say and having freedom of speech. Well, you know, you have freedom of speech not to support him, and he has freedom of speech to say what he wants to say. But anyway... Well, it's more than that. I mean, he tried to stop us from having our freedom of speech. And some of the recent things that he's done regarding the Freeman and some of his vilification of those people up there is absolutely despicable. Well, like I say, you know, you have that point of view and you're entitled to your point of view, and I'm not going to contest it. You know, I'm not saying you're wrong or right. That's your point of view. But having Charlie on the show, he said some good things on the show, and Julian Whittaker was on the show, and he said, put the cancer cure. But also, we had a great panel on about asset forfeiture, and we had three of the leading people, Brenda Grantland and Jeffrey Steinborn, and the third group that I don't remember at the moment, but we had a terrific... What we did was we showed what happened to Donald Scott to his wife, and after we showed a 12-minute piece of that, then we had a panel talking about what the federal government can do and can't do and how to protect yourself. And it was really... It was very, very enlightening. And then I did an awful lot of the show myself. And what I find happening today is that I find that many liberal people, when they see the show, they're saying to me, my God, Aaron, I had no idea this was really happening in America. Because I back up, I show them the bills that they're passing, I actually put the bills on the screen, and I show them, and all of a sudden, I'm finding liberals and conservatives, neither one wants to be a slave. And that's the battle we're all fighting, is slavery. And I think when people realize that we're fighting slavery, everybody's wanting to come together to defeat that. And that's why I guess I'm finding such an easy road now in this battle, because people are recognizing the fact that nobody wants to be a slave. And the liberals before, people say to me, Aaron, are you getting any support in Hollywood? What do those people out there think? And everybody tends to group people together in their thinking. And I really believe in individuality as opposed to group thinking. I don't like group thinking. And I think group thinking is not thinking. It's no thinking. And when I sit down with a lot of liberal people and I explain what's going on, they're in shock. They're in shock. And they want to stop it just like anybody else wants to stop it. And I think the question to say of liberal or conservative is totally irrelevant because I don't know what either label means anymore. I don't know what they stand for. Neither does anybody else. Yeah, exactly. And so I think the only question is to ask yourself, are you free or not? That's the question. Are you free? Not are you a liberal or conservative, but are you free? Yeah. And we're not free anymore. And that's what's bringing everybody together because that recognition is starting to happen. I mean, the Supreme Court just danced this bill and just, not this is stupid, rendered a decision the other day saying that if a policeman stops you in your car for any track violation, they now have the right to search your car. Bet me. That won't happen with my car. It may not happen with your car, but they made a decision that the federal government can now see the assets of innocent people. Okay? So you don't have the protection of the courts anymore. No, they've been doing that for a long time. The truth is the Constitution is not in effect. They are ignoring it and they can do damn well whatever they please, whenever they please, and they've been doing it for a long time. And it's getting worse. Yes. That's why people who never thought about these things before are beginning to recognize it because it's getting very late in the game and it's becoming a little clearer what's happening to other people. And that's why I'm hoping this whole matter is helping when it takes off it's going to bring everybody together in a unification that we've really never quite seen before. And I feel, I feel, you know, I gave a speech. United was standing and asked me to come down and talk because I did. And when I was talking they asked me a question and they said, you know, what do you think of Ross Perot? And I said, first of all, I'm a guest here so straight I don't really want to say what I think of Ross Perot but the first thing is I think he was a trailblazer and he allowed me to see how many people were dissatisfied when I didn't know that was going on in America. But as far as what he stands for at United We Stand what does United We Stand mean? What does it stand for? I mean, it's United We Stand what? Other than the budget he never talked about the police state and totalitarianism and all those other things that really matter and he doesn't care of the Constitution. No, he said that. He thinks it's an old, outdated document penned by doddering old men over 200 years ago. It's got to be changed. Exactly. But what he did do was show that millions and millions of people were dissatisfied so now we get these millions and millions of people under a roof that's actually fighting the totalitarianism and fighting the federal government and not being a puppet of the government as I think Ross Perot was then we can really be effective when we can win and I think Man as Hell is going to do that. I think it's going to replace United We Stand in terms of the kind of amount of people and stand for something that's really important and that's fighting the police state and that's the main objective and also in this way all these groups you know the land rights groups and the IRS groups the people that are fighting each other they don't have to give up their own little piece of the world you know to join Man as Hell. they're still fighting their own little piece that they're fighting they have their own tentacle and people are really responding in just a really great way Bill I've been overwhelmed I've been really been overwhelmed anybody by the way anybody listening who lives near Las Vegas on Monday night I'll be at the Showboat Hotel it starts at 7 o'clock the show is a 90 minute video it's for free please come I'm going to be there and after the video plays I'm going to talk and we're going to have a really interesting dialogue and it's going to be fast and frenzied and come see the video for free you know in Las Vegas on Monday night at the Showboat and we're going to have a big crowd there and there's going to be a guest are you on the marquee am I on the marquee yeah what does that mean outside the hotel the big sign that says who's playing at the showboat not that I know of you ought to make them put your name up there well you know I'm not exactly that middle you know I'm not either but I have my name on the marquee of the showboat hotel where I spoke there the showboat hotel they gave me the big borrow for free so they can make a contribution that's what we're trying to do get people to know what's going on yeah I mean they've been really I think they only put your name up Bill when you charge money to go so they can make some bucks you know but they're doing this for free they gave us the borrow for free we don't charge people to come in and tell you the truth whether my name's up on the marquee and I couldn't really give a damn so you know all I care about that people show up people get educated and that this movement really kicks into high gear oh Aaron you've got to have a picture of your name on the marquee in Las Vegas I'm going to call them and ask them to put your name on the marquee well I've had it on I've had it on movies you know I don't really care much about that anymore but I've had my ego gratitude I'll lighten up Aaron I'm just playing with you I know and I'll play it back you know but the truth I've had out who cares anymore about this stuff let's win this battle let's get off our butts and let's win this thing you know that's all that matters because you know you really could be right about this being the last election and that's the case you know there's so much work to do right now and there's no time to waste that's right let me give that address out to everybody please if you want to buy the video just to see it I'm telling you do it you're going to be happy you did it I'm not like trying to sell videos let me tell you something guys every time I make a motion picture I get a million dollars or a million and a half dollars I don't make it anymore because I don't have time this is all I care about is winning this battle and this has cost me a fortune to do what I'm doing so it's not about money I want you to understand that I want you to buy this video 20 bucks send a check to Mad as Hell P.O. Box 27740 Las Vegas, Nevada 89126 you'll be really happy you did it 89126 you know and there's so much that we have to do folks and it's just I refuse to go down I refuse to be defeated you know I won't let the government do this to my family this HR 1617 is one of the most disgusting pieces of legislation I've ever seen in my life the Career Planning Act have you discussed that on the show much Bill? what's that? HR 1617 the Career Planning Act? oh yeah we've talked about it it's disgusting I mean channeling children into specific careers whether they want to be that or not once they're in that track that's all they're ever going to be exactly they want to make little tax paying units paying the master it's disgusting and the whole thing about kids being forced to wear uniforms to fight crime it's about that it's about indoctrination of the children I've got to ask you something else this has really bothered me when we were trying to find a candidate for president we considered Charlie Duke and you had some private conversations with him and later I did too and we discovered that his true politics are not what the world thinks that they are and so we rejected him as a political candidate and then he came in as the chairman of the attempt to destroy the Constitution Party why in the world do you have him on your video? Sure, I'm very happy to tell you first of all my conversation with Charlie Duke that you're referring to him and I had a major disagreement about education he thought education at the time was something the government should be involved in and I explained to him that it wasn't we had a major battle and later on he capitulated in that stance and he said I was right and that he was wrong and that and he apologized and as far not apologized he just said that he he copied the Constitution not giving the federal government any say in the education and his own personal take on it was that the federal government should so that's what I related to you and that was one of the reasons why we didn't want to get him involved but later on when you're talking about becoming chairman of this trying to take over the party I wasn't there I was already gone so I don't know all the details of what happened then I wasn't really a part of it I wasn't well in the next issue of Veritas it's going to be the headline front line story we're going to expose Charlie Duke for what he's been doing and what he's done to those freemen up there in Montana what he did to the Constitution Party and what his true politics are what happened with the freemen what happened tell me what happened oh he went up there to try to negotiate and ended up as a propaganda organ to justify the FBI's doing whatever they want to those people oh he said they have to feel some pain he said that they better get those girls out of there because the freemen are lawful to sell them to the highest bidder and just made statements that are just absolutely the most despicable things the same things that they did to the Branch Davidians and Waco he was doing with absolutely no prior allegations of any of those things ever having been made by anybody or any proof of any of what he was saying to vilify the character of those poor people who were in that situation well I certainly understand how you feel about that I was I heard him say about that I feel some pain but that obviously happened much after I did my video yeah he said a lot more than that believe me well you know but I mean I certainly feel that what he said about education a person is a child to grow and learn and change their mind so I don't hold I don't hold anything against him for that personally I do it's socialism it's against the constitution it's wrong it's not the politics that he's telling people at one time I might have said the same thing that doesn't mean you hold against me forever I learned people change they grow he hasn't changed well I don't know that I don't know but people do change they grow people go through life is a process that we go through I'm not the same as now that I was when I was 18 maybe Charlie had to learn something you know I don't I don't put him down for that I think that he has a right to feel what he felt and learn from it and I felt like he was big enough to learn that he was wrong I think Charlie has committed political suicide and if there's any way to help him do that I'm going to do it well that's your choice yeah it's not just my choice the statements that he made about the Freeman what he did to the constitution party has cut him off from I would say the majority of all of the people in this country who consider themselves to be part of the patriot movement I understand how you feel I really do I know how you feel about it but you know there is there's a lot to be said he's done he's done some good work with the convention of states you know he's done a lot of good work in that front and he should be admired for what he did there so you know there's a lot to say on both sides of the coin I mean he really broke his back trying to do that I went to Sacramento with him and with him and Don Roche to stop that from passing in Sacramento and we did and so I was a big part of helping that so you know you take the good with the bad you know everybody's not perfect everybody can't be you don't have to be perfect but you've got to be an American and he has screwed himself in my book and he's not going to get away with it that's your call you better believe it and my call carries a lot of weight I've got to tell you that I certainly believe that too I certainly do you know and there's just there's so much to do you know there's no I feel like rather than taking time to have venom towards people we're better off trying to fight and get a positive attitude going and trying to bring people together with Charlie Duke it has nothing to do with venom Aaron whenever somebody gets exposed for what they are somebody comes up and says oh why can't we all play together you know like Rodney King that's bullshit I've got to tell you that right now it's absolute crap exposing people in this movement for what they really are instead of what they pretend to be is exactly what has to be done you see this 10th resolution 10th amendment resolution stuff that Charlie Duke started and was going across the country had a lot of people pigeonholed chasing their tails around in little cul-de-sacs for nothing if the government if the federal government will not obey the real 10th amendment which is a part of the supreme law of the land they're not going to listen to some 10th amendment resolution that's passed by a state that means nothing has no teeth in the law and has no consequence if they ignore it it certainly raised the consciousness of a lot of people pigeonholed them doing things and spending money on a cause that is absolutely worthless if you want to get behind a cause get behind the council on domestic relations and Jackie Petrou and Dan Druck who are really putting teeth into the 10th amendment and they're passing they're getting resolutions passed in states that says that if the federal government does not obey the 10th amendment and the other parts of the constitution then the states are going to disenfranchise them and that's got the course of law so you know that's what people should be they should be involved in something that actually accomplishes something and doesn't just make some statement you know blowing in the wind well I think that's what I like about America we're all in the house our own opinion Bill you know I think Charlie did a good job in what he was doing I really do I you know what I'm hearing I'm hearing stuff from you I never heard before what's that and it doesn't sit well with me what's that what are you hearing you never heard before well you know you started the constitution party and got that going and you left the constitution party Charlie Duke and some some of his buddies came in and tried to destroy the constitution party they did a pretty good job of it well you can say that all you want but you know damn well that I called you and told you exactly what was happening and sent you faxes of all the stuff yes so don't tell me you don't know what was happening you do now you've got him in your video wait a second wait a second don't put words in my mouth I never said I didn't know what was happening what happened I said I wasn't a part of what happened and I only knew it peripherally from what you had told me you don't have to be a part of it oh you do I never spoke to Karen I was never involved in the inner work as what was going on after I left with that and the fact that you have a phone to pick with Charlie Duke that's between you and Charlie Duke it's got nothing to do with me I like Charlie Duke I think he's a decent guy Aaron does have something and has a lot to do with you the whole thing started when they made accusations that you stole money from the constitution party so don't pull this crap with me who the hell do you think you are no because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I think of anything you can't force stuff down my throat because I think Charlie Duke has done an admirable job he may have screwed up with the freemen I don't know exactly what happened but the man has brought a certain consciousness to people and I don't resent the guy I don't dislike the guy and you can't make me say that I do and that's why America is a free country that's not what I'm saying what are you saying what are you saying because I don't agree with you no you said you weren't a part of it the whole thing started when they accused you of stealing money from the constitution party you remember that Bill excuse me you told me no one ever said that to me you told me I sent you the communications from them that made those accusations no one ever said no one ever accused me of that to my face and you know that and I know that the only thing I've ever had was that you said that you know Ann I'm sorry that I spent all the time defending you over that and took all the flack that I did and spent all the time trying to keep the party together but when you obviously don't even give a damn you're sorry that you defended me because I was psyched to the truth you're sorry that you defended the truth is that what you're saying you're telling me that it doesn't mean anything because nobody accused you to your face if you're sorry you defended the truth then nobody should get behind you no that's not what it's about you just said you're sorry you defended you know no that's not what I said I'll do what you said no no what I said is I'm extremely disappointed in you don't be a bully good night Aaron ladies and gentlemen I can't get behind this it sounds like Aaron is doing the same thing again and as soon as the money starts coming in and all that kind of stuff sounds to me like he's going to bail out just like he bailed out on the Constitution Party I can't get behind it he's the one that uncovered to me Charlie Duke's real politics when the Constitution Party began to get strong Sharon Ford Sharon Scarborough and Charlie Duke mounted an attempt to destroy the Constitution Party and they did a pretty good job of it and it began by accusing Aaron Russo of stealing funds I spent my own money to make an audit of all of the books of the Constitution Party I defended Aaron Russo I took all the flack and all the blame for everything that was happening because he had bailed out and then they began to accuse me and now Aaron wants to start some other thing and get all people into it if you buy a videotape sorry folks sounds like the same old routine to me and it really makes me angry he sent me a video and said this is the video we're selling I watched it Charlie Duke was not on that video and if he had have been we wouldn't have done this broadcast tonight now he's telling me that what they're selling is a videotape with Charlie Duke on there somebody that Aaron Russo could not have endorsed before when he was the chairman of the Constitution Party and so folks cut me out of it I'm sorry that I had him on as a guest tonight I'm sorry that I subjected you to all of this if you want to join that and if you want to send him $20 go right ahead and if you want to send $5 a month go right ahead with that too but I can't approve of it can't get behind it I think there was a little deception in getting on the air tonight I think Aaron Russo knows exactly what I feel about Charlie Duke and maybe that's why he sent me the videotape that did not have Charlie Duke on it I am extremely angry right now good night I hope you can all sort this out and God bless you all it is I'll see you next week. And the little two girls, you know I'm not going to be so Yeah, I know that the faith we have left and the love started We are the people and we live forever We are the people and I keep living on the way On the way If you are one of the homeless, they are one of the homeless If you are standing on, you know I'm not going to be too If you are one of the homeless, we all know it's only fair Unstandard, nobody's got a name Oh, I've got no to be We are the people that live forever And we live forever We are the people and I keep living on the way On the way You are the people and I keep living on the way On the way On the way On the way On the way On the way On the way On the way On the way On the way On the way Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.